[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws

  • From: Don Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:52:44 -0400

Sorry, forgot to paste the first iTunes 11 announcement I found. 
iTunes 11 is Expected to be Available for Download Tomorrow After Apple
iPad Mini Event [Report] | BostInno

http://bostinno.com/2012/10/22/itunes-11-release-date-itunes-11-is-expected-to-be-available-for-download-tomorrow-after-ipad-mini-event-report/#ss__247894_237104_0__ss



If this long URL does not work, paste it into notepad and remove any
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*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>


On 10/21/2012 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from Apple
> itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September 12 event
> with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to it. I also
> wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it something other than
> iTunes 11.
>
> Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to accessibility.
> There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use and
> pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than not, it
> has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer state of the
> art technologies where accessibility is still catching up. Oh well, only
> time will tell!
>
> On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>> HI Christopher.
>>
>> Right. thanks much for all these.  proven beyond a doubt now in my view.
>> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about it!
>>
>> <sigh.>
>>
>> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
>> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on the ground 
>> floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just "work with it," upon the 
>> new release.
>>
>> <sigh2.>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>
>>
>>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as regarding
>>> where people heard that a new version of Itunes would be coming out in
>>> October. This is an example of one place. For more recent information,
>>> go ahead and use Google.
>>>
>>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that there
>>> would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October. This was
>>> announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and IOS 6
>>> announcements. Check out the following links:
>>> *
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-media-player_n_1877822.html
>>> *
>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign-improved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
>>> * http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/12/
>>> * http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-announce/
>>> * http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october/
>>>
>>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very clearly
>>> referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would be coming out
>>> in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use Google to find these
>>> and many other articles. ;-)
>>>
>>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
>>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor... probably was
>>>> something someone decided to do no research on before they wrote the 
>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>
>>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is already done 
>>>> with
>>>> the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything about version 11 on there
>>>> site or any email list currently on with them.
>>>>
>>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this when
>>>>> the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to support the new
>>>>> devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on IOS related lists. BTW,
>>>>> here's an article from July that talks about iTunes 11:
>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-september-will-b
>>>>> e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as that's
>>>>>> currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured this
>>>>>> very useful titbit of apple info!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all a bit
>>>>>> more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you have any ideas
>>>>>> as to why jfw seems to have so much problems relating to it?
>>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory details,
>>>>>> re  why you feel you've had so little luck, messing with it in
>>>>>> scripting land?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might help
>>>>>> us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the sorts of
>>>>>> specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first how you've maybe
>>>>>> puzzled out in your head, what solution path you might even
>>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
>>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific coding
>>>>>> mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about implementing that
>>>>>> thought solution?
>>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
>>>>>> <grin.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart of this
>>>>>> incredibly long wait/sluggishness  time with the iTunes store, As I
>>>>>> was servicing a client with a netbook with a reeeally pretty slow
>>>>>> processor , and it was posing some pretty substantial annoyances for
>>>>>> her, I tried replacing the refresh () Function, which as you know
>>>>>> refreshes the whole jolly screen, with, ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also
>>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
>>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
>>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their refresh
>>>>>> whole screen function, as was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely going to
>>>>>>> be for Window Eyes users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time seems
>>>>>>> like a waste.  Apple has been promising a complete rewrite of
>>>>>>> iTunes, to be released in October.  Have not heard a word recently
>>>> (this month).
>>>>>>> *Don Marang*
>>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
>>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when using
>>>>>>>>> them... the store main window is my largest problem...
>>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work
>>>>>>>>> just fine, if not better without them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>> Smart
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to
>>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
>>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
>>>>>>>>>> to work together?  I need the app to make the
>>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
>>>>>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question.  Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> in advance Lee
>>>>>>>>>>
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