[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
- From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:51:46 -0500
Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from Apple
itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September 12 event
with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to it. I also
wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it something other than
iTunes 11.
Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to accessibility.
There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use and
pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than not, it
has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer state of the
art technologies where accessibility is still catching up. Oh well, only
time will tell!
On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> HI Christopher.
>
> Right. thanks much for all these. proven beyond a doubt now in my view.
> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about it!
>
> <sigh.>
>
> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on the ground
> floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just "work with it," upon the
> new release.
>
> <sigh2.>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>
>
>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as regarding
>> where people heard that a new version of Itunes would be coming out in
>> October. This is an example of one place. For more recent information,
>> go ahead and use Google.
>>
>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that there
>> would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October. This was
>> announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and IOS 6
>> announcements. Check out the following links:
>> *
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-media-player_n_1877822.html
>> *
>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign-improved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
>> * http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/12/
>> * http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-announce/
>> * http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october/
>>
>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very clearly
>> referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would be coming out
>> in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use Google to find these
>> and many other articles. ;-)
>>
>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor... probably was
>>> something someone decided to do no research on before they wrote the
>>> post.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>
>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is already done
>>> with
>>> the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything about version 11 on there
>>> site or any email list currently on with them.
>>>
>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this when
>>>> the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to support the new
>>>> devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on IOS related lists. BTW,
>>>> here's an article from July that talks about iTunes 11:
>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-september-will-b
>>>> e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
>>>>
>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as that's
>>>>> currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured this
>>>>> very useful titbit of apple info!
>>>>>
>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all a bit
>>>>> more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you have any ideas
>>>>> as to why jfw seems to have so much problems relating to it?
>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory details,
>>>>> re why you feel you've had so little luck, messing with it in
>>>>> scripting land?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might help
>>>>> us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the sorts of
>>>>> specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first how you've maybe
>>>>> puzzled out in your head, what solution path you might even
>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific coding
>>>>> mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about implementing that
>>>>> thought solution?
>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
>>>>> <grin.>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart of this
>>>>> incredibly long wait/sluggishness time with the iTunes store, As I
>>>>> was servicing a client with a netbook with a reeeally pretty slow
>>>>> processor , and it was posing some pretty substantial annoyances for
>>>>> her, I tried replacing the refresh () Function, which as you know
>>>>> refreshes the whole jolly screen, with, ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
>>>>>
>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also
>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
>>>>>
>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their refresh
>>>>> whole screen function, as was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely going to
>>>>>> be for Window Eyes users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time seems
>>>>>> like a waste. Apple has been promising a complete rewrite of
>>>>>> iTunes, to be released in October. Have not heard a word recently
>>> (this month).
>>>>>> *Don Marang*
>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when using
>>>>>>>> them... the store main window is my largest problem...
>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work
>>>>>>>> just fine, if not better without them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>> Smart
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to
>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
>>>>>>>>> to work together? I need the app to make the
>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
>>>>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question. Thanks
>>>>>>>>> in advance Lee
>>>>>>>>>
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