[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
- From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:30:48 -0700
Secrecy at Apple is very strict. You can't get them to talk to anyone. I've
been waiting for a beta for so long to test out Blind tunes.
John
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:06 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
Now this is interesting. Yesterday I could bring up info on iTunes 11 on my
PC and today just coming soon. If I move to the macbookpro all that info
shows again.
At 03:53 AM 10/24/2012, you wrote:
>Sorry, no announcement yet! Apple did announce a lot of hardware
>yesterday and important updates to the iBook and Author apps. They are
>now heavily pushing the new iPad mini for use in Schools for students
>of all ages. Everyone expected iTunes 11 to be announced because last
>month they said it would be released in October and this is the only
>big Appple big event for a while. I guess rewriting iTunes is more
>difficult than they thought and it is not ready yet. Maybe they needed
>the Windows 8 Visual Studio developers tools and they are not one of
>the few developers granted the priveledge of getting them before
>Windows 8 is announced on the 26th.
>When it comes to announcements from Apple, secrecy is paramount! I
>will keep my ears open.
>
>*Don Marang*
>Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
><http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>
>
>On 10/23/2012 8:50 PM, Andy B. wrote:
> > What time is the IPad mini event supposed to be done? I still have
> > ITunes 10.7, checked for updates about 10 minutes ago, and nothing
> > yet. It is almost 9PM here.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:49 AM
> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >
> > Many articles I just found on Google expect iTunes 11 to be
> > available later today after the Apple announcements. A link to the
first listed is below.
> > Today Apple is expected to announce the iPad mini, the smaller size
> > tablet Steve Jobs said Apple would not create! I hope they change
> > the name the press has given it. The only thing worse would to call it
the iMinipad.
> >
> > *Don Marang*
> > Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
> > <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
> >
> >
> > On 10/21/2012 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> >> Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from
> >> Apple itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September
> >> 12 event with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to
> >> it. I also wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it
> >> something other than iTunes 11.
> >>
> >> Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to
accessibility.
> >> There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use
> >> and pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than
> >> not, it has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer
> >> state of the art technologies where accessibility is still catching
> >> up. Oh well, only time will tell!
> >>
> >> On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> >>> HI Christopher.
> >>>
> >>> Right. thanks much for all these. proven beyond a doubt now in my
view.
> >>> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about
it!
> >>>
> >>> <sigh.>
> >>>
> >>> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
> >>> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on
> >>> the ground floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just
> >>> "work with it," upon the new release.
> >>>
> >>> <sigh2.>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as
> >>>> regarding where people heard that a new version of Itunes would
> >>>> be coming out in October. This is an example of one place. For
> >>>> more recent information, go ahead and use Google.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that
> >>>> there would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October.
> >>>> This was announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and
> >>>> IOS 6 announcements. Check out the following links:
> >>>> *
> >>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-medi
> >>>> a-p
> >>>> layer_n_1877822.html
> >>>> *
> >>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign
> >>>> -im proved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
> >>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
> >>>> *
> >>>> http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/1
> >>>> 2/
> >>>> *
> >>>> http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-anno
> >>>> unc
> >>>> e/
> >>>> *
> >>>> http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october
> >>>> /
> >>>>
> >>>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very
> >>>> clearly referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would
> >>>> be coming out in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use
> >>>> Google to find these and many other articles. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
> >>>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor...
> >>>>> probably was something someone decided to do no research on
> >>>>> before they wrote the post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
> >>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is
> >>>>> already done with the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything
> >>>>> about version 11 on there site or any email list currently on with
them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
> >>>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this
> >>>>>> when the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to
> >>>>>> support the new devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on
> >>>>>> IOS related lists. BTW, here's an article from July that talks
about iTunes 11:
> >>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-septembe
> >>>>>> r-w ill-b e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> >>>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as
> >>>>>>> that's currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured
> >>>>>>> this very useful titbit of apple info!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all
> >>>>>>> a bit more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you
> >>>>>>> have any ideas as to why jfw seems to have so much problems
> >>>>>>> relating to
> > it?
> >>>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory
> >>>>>>> details, re why you feel you've had so little luck, messing
> >>>>>>> with it in scripting land?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might
> >>>>>>> help us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the
> >>>>>>> sorts of specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first
> >>>>>>> how you've maybe puzzled out in your head, what solution path
> >>>>>>> you might even
> >>>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
> >>>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific
> >>>>>>> coding mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about
> >>>>>>> implementing that thought solution?
> >>>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
> >>>>>>> <grin.>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart
> >>>>>>> of this incredibly long wait/sluggishness time with the
> >>>>>>> iTunes store, As I was servicing a client with a netbook with
> >>>>>>> a reeeally pretty slow processor , and it was posing some
> >>>>>>> pretty substantial annoyances for her, I tried replacing the
> >>>>>>> refresh () Function, which as you know refreshes the whole
> >>>>>>> jolly screen, with, ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also
> >>>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
> >>>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
> >>>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their
> >>>>>>> refresh whole screen function, as was.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely
> >>>>>>>> going to be for Window Eyes users.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
> >>>>>>>> Marang
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time
> >>>>>>>> seems like a waste. Apple has been promising a complete
> >>>>>>>> rewrite of iTunes, to be released in October. Have not heard
> >>>>>>>> a word recently
> >>>>> (this month).
> >>>>>>>> *Don Marang*
> >>>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when
> >>>>>>>>>> using them... the store main window is my largest problem...
> >>>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work just fine, if not better
> >>>>>>>>>> without them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Smart
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to
> >>>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
> >>>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
> >>>>>>>>>>> to work together? I need the app to make the
> >>>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
> >>>>>>>>>>> of money.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance Lee
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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