[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
- From: Don Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:53:30 -0400
Sorry, no announcement yet! Apple did announce a lot of hardware
yesterday and important updates to the iBook and Author apps. They are
now heavily pushing the new iPad mini for use in Schools for students of
all ages. Everyone expected iTunes 11 to be announced because last
month they said it would be released in October and this is the only big
Appple big event for a while. I guess rewriting iTunes is more
difficult than they thought and it is not ready yet. Maybe they needed
the Windows 8 Visual Studio developers tools and they are not one of the
few developers granted the priveledge of getting them before Windows 8
is announced on the 26th.
When it comes to announcements from Apple, secrecy is paramount! I will
keep my ears open.
*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
On 10/23/2012 8:50 PM, Andy B. wrote:
> What time is the IPad mini event supposed to be done? I still have ITunes
> 10.7, checked for updates about 10 minutes ago, and nothing yet. It is
> almost 9PM here.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:49 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>
> Many articles I just found on Google expect iTunes 11 to be available later
> today after the Apple announcements. A link to the first listed is below.
> Today Apple is expected to announce the iPad mini, the smaller size tablet
> Steve Jobs said Apple would not create! I hope they change the name the
> press has given it. The only thing worse would to call it the iMinipad.
>
> *Don Marang*
> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>
>
> On 10/21/2012 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from Apple
>> itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September 12 event
>> with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to it. I also
>> wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it something other than
>> iTunes 11.
>>
>> Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to accessibility.
>> There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use and
>> pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than not,
>> it has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer state of
>> the art technologies where accessibility is still catching up. Oh
>> well, only time will tell!
>>
>> On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>> HI Christopher.
>>>
>>> Right. thanks much for all these. proven beyond a doubt now in my view.
>>> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about it!
>>>
>>> <sigh.>
>>>
>>> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
>>> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on the
>>> ground floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just "work with
>>> it," upon the new release.
>>>
>>> <sigh2.>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>
>>>
>>>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as regarding
>>>> where people heard that a new version of Itunes would be coming out
>>>> in October. This is an example of one place. For more recent
>>>> information, go ahead and use Google.
>>>>
>>>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that
>>>> there would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October.
>>>> This was announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and IOS 6
>>>> announcements. Check out the following links:
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-media-p
>>>> layer_n_1877822.html
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign-im
>>>> proved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
>>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/12/
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-announc
>>>> e/
>>>> * http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october/
>>>>
>>>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very
>>>> clearly referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would be
>>>> coming out in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use Google
>>>> to find these and many other articles. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
>>>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor... probably
>>>>> was something someone decided to do no research on before they
>>>>> wrote the post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>
>>>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is already
>>>>> done with the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything about
>>>>> version 11 on there site or any email list currently on with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this
>>>>>> when the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to support
>>>>>> the new devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on IOS related
>>>>>> lists. BTW, here's an article from July that talks about iTunes 11:
>>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-september-w
>>>>>> ill-b e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as
>>>>>>> that's currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured
>>>>>>> this very useful titbit of apple info!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all a
>>>>>>> bit more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you have
>>>>>>> any ideas as to why jfw seems to have so much problems relating to
> it?
>>>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory
>>>>>>> details, re why you feel you've had so little luck, messing with
>>>>>>> it in scripting land?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might
>>>>>>> help us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the
>>>>>>> sorts of specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first how
>>>>>>> you've maybe puzzled out in your head, what solution path you
>>>>>>> might even
>>>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
>>>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific
>>>>>>> coding mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about implementing
>>>>>>> that thought solution?
>>>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
>>>>>>> <grin.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart of
>>>>>>> this incredibly long wait/sluggishness time with the iTunes
>>>>>>> store, As I was servicing a client with a netbook with a reeeally
>>>>>>> pretty slow processor , and it was posing some pretty substantial
>>>>>>> annoyances for her, I tried replacing the refresh () Function,
>>>>>>> which as you know refreshes the whole jolly screen, with,
>>>>>>> ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also
>>>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
>>>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
>>>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their refresh
>>>>>>> whole screen function, as was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely going
>>>>>>>> to be for Window Eyes users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
>>>>>>>> Marang
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time
>>>>>>>> seems like a waste. Apple has been promising a complete rewrite
>>>>>>>> of iTunes, to be released in October. Have not heard a word
>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>> (this month).
>>>>>>>> *Don Marang*
>>>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
>>>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when using
>>>>>>>>>> them... the store main window is my largest problem...
>>>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work just fine, if not better
>>>>>>>>>> without them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>>> Smart
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to
>>>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
>>>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
>>>>>>>>>>> to work together? I need the app to make the
>>>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
>>>>>>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance Lee
>>>>>>>>>>>
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