[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:17:36 +1100
Short URL for Don's helpful posting:
http://bit.ly/XNXf2S
So just in case anyone cares, there are a heap of shortening URL services
out there now, perfect for yuck long URL's such as the below.
you simply paste it into their shortening edit box, when you can locate it,
and it does it's thing.
and offers you a severely stripped down URL, usually just below the long
link.
the two I use most, tend to be:
http://bit.ly/
and
http://urlin.IT/
Although that one isn't listed in anyone's bestest so take with grains of
salt.
one more is:
http://is.gd
Maybe easier to remember coz in braille gd means good! hahaha.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
> Sorry, forgot to paste the first iTunes 11 announcement I found.
> iTunes 11 is Expected to be Available for Download Tomorrow After Apple
> iPad Mini Event [Report] | BostInno
>
> http://bostinno.com/2012/10/22/itunes-11-release-date-itunes-11-is-expected-to-be-available-for-download-tomorrow-after-ipad-mini-event-report/#ss__247894_237104_0__ss
>
>
>
> If this long URL does not work, paste it into notepad and remove any
> spaces or line breaks emaui has added.
>
> *Don Marang*
> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>
>
> On 10/21/2012 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from Apple
>> itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September 12 event
>> with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to it. I also
>> wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it something other than
>> iTunes 11.
>>
>> Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to accessibility.
>> There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use and
>> pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than not, it
>> has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer state of the
>> art technologies where accessibility is still catching up. Oh well, only
>> time will tell!
>>
>> On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>> HI Christopher.
>>>
>>> Right. thanks much for all these. proven beyond a doubt now in my view.
>>> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about
>>> it!
>>>
>>> <sigh.>
>>>
>>> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
>>> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on the
>>> ground
>>> floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just "work with it," upon
>>> the
>>> new release.
>>>
>>> <sigh2.>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>
>>>
>>>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as regarding
>>>> where people heard that a new version of Itunes would be coming out in
>>>> October. This is an example of one place. For more recent information,
>>>> go ahead and use Google.
>>>>
>>>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that there
>>>> would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October. This was
>>>> announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and IOS 6
>>>> announcements. Check out the following links:
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-media-player_n_1877822.html
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign-improved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
>>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
>>>> * http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/12/
>>>> *
>>>> http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-announce/
>>>> * http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october/
>>>>
>>>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very clearly
>>>> referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would be coming out
>>>> in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use Google to find these
>>>> and many other articles. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
>>>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor... probably was
>>>>> something someone decided to do no research on before they wrote the
>>>>> post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>
>>>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is already done
>>>>> with
>>>>> the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything about version 11 on
>>>>> there
>>>>> site or any email list currently on with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this when
>>>>>> the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to support the new
>>>>>> devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on IOS related lists. BTW,
>>>>>> here's an article from July that talks about iTunes 11:
>>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-september-will-b
>>>>>> e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as that's
>>>>>>> currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured this
>>>>>>> very useful titbit of apple info!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all a bit
>>>>>>> more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you have any ideas
>>>>>>> as to why jfw seems to have so much problems relating to it?
>>>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory details,
>>>>>>> re why you feel you've had so little luck, messing with it in
>>>>>>> scripting land?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might help
>>>>>>> us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the sorts of
>>>>>>> specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first how you've maybe
>>>>>>> puzzled out in your head, what solution path you might even
>>>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
>>>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific coding
>>>>>>> mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about implementing that
>>>>>>> thought solution?
>>>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
>>>>>>> <grin.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart of this
>>>>>>> incredibly long wait/sluggishness time with the iTunes store, As I
>>>>>>> was servicing a client with a netbook with a reeeally pretty slow
>>>>>>> processor , and it was posing some pretty substantial annoyances for
>>>>>>> her, I tried replacing the refresh () Function, which as you know
>>>>>>> refreshes the whole jolly screen, with, ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also
>>>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
>>>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
>>>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their refresh
>>>>>>> whole screen function, as was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely going to
>>>>>>>> be for Window Eyes users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time seems
>>>>>>>> like a waste. Apple has been promising a complete rewrite of
>>>>>>>> iTunes, to be released in October. Have not heard a word recently
>>>>> (this month).
>>>>>>>> *Don Marang*
>>>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
>>>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when using
>>>>>>>>>> them... the store main window is my largest problem...
>>>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work
>>>>>>>>>> just fine, if not better without them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>>> Smart
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to
>>>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
>>>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
>>>>>>>>>>> to work together? I need the app to make the
>>>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
>>>>>>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> in advance Lee
>>>>>>>>>>>
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