[jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws

  • From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:50:38 -0400

What time is the IPad mini event supposed to be done? I still have ITunes
10.7, checked for updates about 10 minutes ago, and nothing yet. It is
almost 9PM here.


-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:49 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws

Many articles I just found on Google expect iTunes 11 to be available later
today after the Apple announcements.  A link to the first listed is below.
Today Apple is expected to announce the iPad mini, the smaller size tablet
Steve Jobs said Apple would not create!  I hope they change the name the
press has given it.  The only thing worse would to call it the iMinipad. 

*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>


On 10/21/2012 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> Well, I didn't see an actual announcement or press release from Apple 
> itself, but I saw enough articles pointing to the September 12 event 
> with Eddy Cue that makes me confident there's something to it. I also 
> wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses to name it something other than 
> iTunes 11.
>
> Rewrites like these also make me worried when it comes to accessibility.
> There's a chance that the interface will be simpler, easier to use and 
> pay more attention to accessibility, but I find more often than not, 
> it has a slicker looking interface taking advantage of newer state of 
> the art technologies where accessibility is still catching up. Oh 
> well, only time will tell!
>
> On 21/10/12 17:49, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>> HI Christopher.
>>
>> Right. thanks much for all these.  proven beyond a doubt now in my view.
>> Though I can't jolly well say I'm jumping up and down with glee about it!
>>
>> <sigh.>
>>
>> It sounds like another accessibility nightmare to me.
>> and I haven't heard fs waxing eloquent about them getting in on the 
>> ground floor with apple with it, such that jaws will just "work with 
>> it," upon the new release.
>>
>> <sigh2.>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:52 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>
>>
>>> That article was posted in July. I thought the question as regarding 
>>> where people heard that a new version of Itunes would be coming out 
>>> in October. This is an example of one place. For more recent 
>>> information, go ahead and use Google.
>>>
>>> Eddy Cue the VP of Internet Software from Apple, announced that 
>>> there would be a new iTunes, AKA iTunes 11, released in October. 
>>> This was announced on September 12 as part of the iPhone 5 and IOS 6 
>>> announcements. Check out the following links:
>>> *
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-new-apple-media-p
>>> layer_n_1877822.html
>>> *
>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-itunes-11-unveiled-dramatic-redesign-im
>>> proved-icloud-integration-release-date-late-october
>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes
>>> * 
>>> http://www.everythingicafe.com/itunes-11-gets-announced/2012/09/12/
>>> * 
>>> http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/12/apple-itune-icloud-integration-announc
>>> e/
>>> * http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/itunes-11-announced-coming-october/
>>>
>>> These were just the first links I found to articles that very 
>>> clearly referred to Apple's announcement that a new iTunes would be 
>>> coming out in October. Speaking of research, anyone can use Google 
>>> to find these and many other articles. ;-)
>>>
>>> On 21/10/12 16:21, Andy B. wrote:
>>>> Looking at the link itself, it mentions the word rumor... probably 
>>>> was something someone decided to do no research on before they 
>>>> wrote the post.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:15 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>
>>>> With IOS6 out all of what is mentioned in that article is already 
>>>> done with the current iTunes 10.7. Haven't seen anything about 
>>>> version 11 on there site or any email list currently on with them.
>>>>
>>>> At 01:03 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> I'm neither Don or Chris, but I recall hearing a lot about this 
>>>>> when the iPhone 5 was released and iTunes 10.7 came out to support 
>>>>> the new devices. I'm assuming I heard this mostly on IOS related 
>>>>> lists. BTW, here's an article from July that talks about iTunes 11:
>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/106672/itunes-11-is-coming-in-september-w
>>>>> ill-b e-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-rumor/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/12 05:47, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>>>> hmmm, well, I don't think the rewrite can be 10.7 though, as 
>>>>>> that's currently the latest release so far as I was aware?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I'm still kinda keen to learn where Don and Chris procured 
>>>>>> this very useful titbit of apple info!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John, may I ask you also, would you feel up to telling us all a 
>>>>>> bit more about that pesky iTunes store window? and if you have 
>>>>>> any ideas as to why jfw seems to have so much problems relating to
it?
>>>>>> and perhaps specifically, if you'd care to go into the gory 
>>>>>> details, re  why you feel you've had so little luck, messing with 
>>>>>> it in scripting land?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just Thought telling about your pokings and proddings, might 
>>>>>> help us all out here, learn a bit more of the processes of the 
>>>>>> sorts of specific problems you've noticed, and perhaps first how 
>>>>>> you've maybe puzzled out in your head, what solution path you 
>>>>>> might even
>>>>> try, to solve, x, problem? and
>>>>>> then maybe, if you felt reeeally inspired, :) what specific 
>>>>>> coding mechanisms you perhaps employed to go about implementing 
>>>>>> that thought solution?
>>>>>> If you feel like putting your scripter teaching hat on that is?
>>>>>> <grin.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that some time back, in an effort to get to the heart of 
>>>>>> this incredibly long wait/sluggishness  time with the iTunes 
>>>>>> store, As I was servicing a client with a netbook with a reeeally 
>>>>>> pretty slow processor , and it was posing some pretty substantial 
>>>>>> annoyances for her, I tried replacing the refresh () Function, 
>>>>>> which as you know refreshes the whole jolly screen, with, 
>>>>>> ;RefreshWindow (hWndFocus)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> referring to the "iTunesWebViewControl" window class, And also 
>>>>>> trying the ;MSAARefresh ()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Function, but I couldn't get any joy/change at all using those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I forget now exactly what happened when I
>>>>> tried those, but I do remember it
>>>>>> didn't seem to help, and I went back to leaving in their refresh 
>>>>>> whole screen function, as was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:21 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably ITunes 10.7? If not, the re-write is most likely going 
>>>>>>> to be for Window Eyes users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don 
>>>>>>> Marang
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spending a lot of time on iTunes accessibility at this time 
>>>>>>> seems like a waste.  Apple has been promising a complete rewrite 
>>>>>>> of iTunes, to be released in October.  Have not heard a word 
>>>>>>> recently
>>>> (this month).
>>>>>>> *Don Marang*
>>>>>>> Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
>>>>>>> <http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Andy. Have you reported the problems to John?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 10:22 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Except that some UI elements in ITunes get confused when using 
>>>>>>>>> them... the store main window is my largest problem...
>>>>>>>>> Besides, I find ITunes to work just fine, if not better 
>>>>>>>>> without them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris 
>>>>>>>>> Smart
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: I-tunes and jaws
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Absolutely ... they're great and free too. go to 
>>>>>>>>> www.blindtunes.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 03:05 PM 10/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Are there scripts available that will
>>>>>>>>> allow jaws 13 and I tunes
>>>>>>>>>> to work together?  I need the app to make the
>>>>>>>>> i-phone speak the value
>>>>>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>>>>> Please forgive me if this is not a scripting question.  
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance Lee
>>>>>>>>>>
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