I think it is good to think back to about a decade ago when Flash was not prevalent. Remember how a website had to have Quicktime and Windows Media and Real media on their website to reach everyone? I know that we here at UNLV started using Flash so that the player could be embedded in the website, with decode/playback software available to both Macs and PCs, allowing most computers to play Flash media. It seems to me that this is one of the reasons Flash became popular, problems and all. While it might sound like I am opposed to what Apple is doing as an end user, it is really opposition as a content provider. Without the support of Flash on these new technologies, we must go back and provide multiple formats and go through multiple distribution outlets to get our media into them. Mind you, these technologies could use the popular media format but have chosen not to. (If someone were to argue that these new technologies are not technologically able to use them, then I question the sophistication of these new devises.) I realize this a simplistic view, but it is my gripe of the situation. So I ask, will HTML5 be the open standard that is ubiquitous? I kind of doubt it. I don't have in-depth knowledge of HTML5 so I hope I don't sound too foolish here. But I doubt that a decoder and player will actually be programmed within the HTML5 language. I imagine it will actually use another application to do the decoding and playing. So the question is, will the application that does the decoding actually be ubiquitous and fully open? I kind of doubt that, too. To me, Apple is purporting this with HTML5, but perhaps not. If HTML5 is capable of being the media saviour of the world, perhaps I could get behind Apple. But since I cannot even develop an HTML5 web page without learning yet another language set, we must either go back to doing what I had to do a decade ago or accept that these Apple products will not be able to see our media. Since our customers are students and our student content creators want to reach the students who so readily adopt these products, we are taking a lot of criticism to why our media is not available to them. The students believe we are the ones not technologically advanced to handle Apple products! Looks like I have yet another task to add to my workload, thanks to Apple. Back to iTunes, back to RealPlayer? (By the way, can one stream live on either of these? I have some more research to do on this.) I know, I hear the violins singing in the background, too. Dan