1999, so you knew, or, as a broadcast engineer, should have known, about the cliff effect. Why are you giving us your whining now? You made your decision, for the big back yard, and great c-band reception, but now you chose to "punish" with your Ludditism. And, you're talking about FORECASTS? This is absurd. Let me clue in on something; the stations don't create forecasts; they pay for them from Accuweather or another similar service. You can, if you can see your way through the whining, get the same data yourself, and when you want it, not when the tv-schedule-related Pavlovian response kicks in. Here's something else that you should know: without a spectrum analyzer and a field-strength meter, you don't have a clue as to whether your interference issue is caused by analog into digital (with the analog signal being far away.) In other words, you don't know if your interference is CAUSED by the transition to digital, and will simply go away when analog does. But, all you can give is FEAR. Please, you are an adult. Act like one and live with your choices. John Willkie _____ De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Cliff Benham Enviado el: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:19 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Kennard and Powell to the rescue John Willkie wrote: So, your "interest" in digital is solely to get 1946 to 1956 studio-quality video into analog sets? Go back and read what I wrote. The sets are from 1946 to 1956, NOT THE VIDEO!!!!! That's pretty much what I think your interest is, but I wouldn't have used the word "solely." I can guarantee you that studio quality video has improved significantly in the past 60 years, and that not a word in any of the various laws, regulations and FCC proceedings would favor your interest. As I said above.... Your situation is a bit different than most; you are a television engineer, not merely someone who plays one on the Internet. I also suspect that you moved to your present location with marginal analog reception after DTV was initiated by an act of Congress. 1999. And, I know that there was debate back then whether or how well digital would replicate analog reception. Isn't this a bet that you lost? I lost 2 Philly DTV stations but picked up up 3 more from Baltimore. Sometimes. What you really could and should have said was that your bad bet meant that you couldn't get the weather tonight on digital, so you had to step down to analog. I could get it from Baltimore, 52 miles distant, but thats not where I live. The weather from Baltimore only has meaning here once in a while. However, I suspect that there are several ways of getting the weather, even in bad weather, and several of them are more efficient than waiting for someone to dispense a bit of weather information to you when they do it, on a regular schedule. I have several weather radios, but the NWS station nearest me is very weak. The only other one is from the Maryland shore. Not my weather either. I look at radar loops from NOAA in Mt. Holly,N.J. and Sterling Va. Good but do not provide the forecast that the computerized TV weather programs have. It sounds to me like you need to subscribe to cable to get the same type of television reception that others consider to be baseline useable. If I subscribe to anything it will be to a satellite service. You're right about the FCC, of course. The FCC of 1953 is not the FCC we have today. Of course, the FCC didn't mandate 8-vSB; Congress did, and Bill "BJ" Clinton signed it into law. Nor does this FCC mandate agricultural reports for urban areas, or news, or public affairs programming. There are no limits on commercial content, nor are station proposals evaluated on whether they propose to pay for an Associated Press newswire. Nor are the industries regulated by the FCC (save mobile telephones and another here and there) in an expansion mode. Nor is broadcasting the only way to get reliable news and information between the various editions of newspapers that are delivered to homes. Others, without your knowledge and experience, have bigger violins to play over the next 40 or so days. But, me, I'm old-fashioned. I always pay attention to broadcast, satellite, cable and telephone reception/connectivity issues when I consider moving. I moved here because the house has a huge backyard with a Southwestern look and no trees. I get great, FREE C-Band reception. I even try to anticipate how the situation might change based on weather, topography, climate, and new construction. I learned this the hard way, by moving, in 1976, to a location where I soon discovered, there was no possibility of TV, AM or FM (aside from snowy audio from one station) reception. Fortunately, Adobe Falls did have cable television hookups, and it was livable, until/unless the Lake Murray dam broke. By the way, nothing I say should be construed to assert that 8-VSB works perfectly or anything more than "almost adequate." But, I can receive HDTV signals that travel more than 120 miles to my home. John Willkie Sometimes I can too. The key word here is 'sometimes'.