[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin

  • From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:51:18 +0100

I don't think speech would be that valuable here as the transaction is not that 
complicated.  Another old chessnut though is the talking cash machine which 
occasionally seems to get tried out but never catches on at all to my 
knowledge.  The difference here is that there is a keypad plus about 8 buttons, 
may be 10, arranged in colums either side of the screen.  The purpose of these 
buttons is different depending on the operation being carried out so it is 
necessary to either learn the sequence for the banks you want to use or ask 
someone for help, a risky business.

It would be a shame therefore if the DRC and TUC concentrated on Chip and Pin 
where broadly speaking we have a good solution that just needs a bit of 
tinkering and ignored the issue of cash machines where there are really genuin 
access issues.

Regards

Graham
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: James O'Dell 
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


I agree with most of the points raised here, I often ask for help and have no 
problems, I was just trying to think of possible applications for speech in 
this situation - whether it is actually necessary or worth the effort is a 
different point altogether.

James
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray's Home 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:25 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


  We seem to be going all round the houses with this one, and we've done it 
before too!

  Tristram is right of course.  Human assistance, usually helpful is there at 
the cash point.  Don't be afraid or too proud to use it.

  On the question of devices communicating wirelessly with a very small device 
we carry around, ;  don't dismiss this idea too lightly.  I could forsee, or is 
it dream? of a device that could do this and more.  Why not something combining 
EPOS communication with electronic signage - if only this pathetic country 
could get its act together and enable us to identify things when out and about. 
 Maybe too it could be combined and work alongside Sat Nav.  Handheld Sat nav 
devices are already around I believe, and there's even been talk, (pub 
unintended) that a talking hand-held sat nav device might become available, I 
mean a truly hand held one, that is.  Dream on.
  Ray

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tristram Llewellyn 


    The cashier should be able to let you all of those things, including where 
to put the card which varies with different types of terminal as part of the 
transaction and do it better than any synthetic speech could.  They will let 
you know also if the PIN is entered incorrectly.

    Regards.

    Tristram Llewellyn



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