[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:37:26 +0100
my feelings are the same as yours Ray.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
: Well Yusuf, I was making a general point arising out of my impression
that it
: might be a proud sort of independence with some as to why they are less
than
: happy with help from a cashier or whoever. In any case, I believe that
when
: you come to think about it 'independence' in a strictly self-sufficient
: interpretation is pretty unworkable anyway.
:
: As for Braille menus, well we could start another thread there. I can
read
: Braille, and I also benefit from large print, but I do not really feel
: affronted by the lack of menus in either of these formats. I'm happy to
take
: up staff time with someone going through the menu, or a friend doing so.
: Admittedly there is an art to how they are read out, i.e. I prefer them to
go
: through the headings first, and when I've ascertained the things I
definitely
: am not interested in we can go through the things I am interested in. Its
not
: ideal, but I cannot for the life of me envisage Braille in particular
keeping
: up with every change in a menu which might occur in the space of a few
weeks or
: less.
:
: In short, I'd far rather have proper staffing levels and staff who are
well
: chosen for their patience and willingness to be helpful, rather than stand
on
: the principle of accessible formats in these situations.
: Ray
:
: Personal emails: Email me at
: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:
:
:: Ray, Its nothing to do with being proud, at least in my case it isn't.
Its
:: simply accessability. By that argument why have Braille menues in
:: restaurants and pubs.
:: Yusuf
:
:
:: ----- Original Message -----
:: From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
::
::
:: We seem to be going all round the houses with this one, and we've done it
:: before too!
::
:: Tristram is right of course. Human assistance, usually helpful is there
at
:: the cash point. Don't be afraid or too proud to use it.
::
:: On the question of devices communicating wirelessly with a very small
device
:: we carry around, ; don't dismiss this idea too lightly. I could forsee,
or
:: is it dream? of a device that could do this and more. Why not something
:: combining EPOS communication with electronic signage - if only this
pathetic
:: country could get its act together and enable us to identify things when
out
:: and about. Maybe too it could be combined and work alongside Sat Nav.
:: Handheld Sat nav devices are already around I believe, and there's even
been
:: talk, (pub unintended) that a talking hand-held sat nav device might
become
:: available, I mean a truly hand held one, that is. Dream on.
:: Ray
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