[access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
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- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:23:38 +0100
Hi George,
As others on the list have said, there is some variation in the lay-out
of different keypads. However, I've not yet found one without a raised
mark on the five button. Although, as I said earlier, I have a small
amount of sight, I rely entirely on touch for using the C&P pads. One
other inconsistency I've noted is that on some systems, notably the one
in Marks & Spencer, there is a beep at the point at which you're asked
to enter your PIN. Others don't have this.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of George Bell
Sent: 04 April 2005 12:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
Hi Derek,
You've hit the nail on the head with that analogy of using a telephone.
I've been specifically looking at many different machines,
and in common with telephones I've seen, all have a raised
dot on the number 5 key.
So what's the real problem?
George.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby
> Sent: 04 April 2005 12:44
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN
>
> Hi Steve
> >I believe that if people see there is an accessible site,
they
> >sometimes assume that the main site isn't accessible, or
is less
> >accessible, which
> is
> > a logical assumption, because they then wonder why an
> accessible site
> > was needed at all, if the main site is less accessible.
>
> Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN!
>
> RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that
not
> all the blind visually impaired are able to use chip and
PIN.
> However, the reasoning is surly flawed because those that
> claim unable to use a key pad, how many of those are able
to
> use a telephone?
> The point being if one is able to use telephone then one
> must be able to use a key pad.
>
> I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key
pad,
> is easy if one already knows the layout for a telephone
buttons!
>
> Of course there will be people blind visually impaired
that
> simply don't want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as
> true for sighted people.
>
> What do others think, is chip and PIN really and truly
> difficult to use for those with little or no sight?
> Regards,
> Derek
>
> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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