Hi Derek I have encoutered chip and pin in a range of retail outlets and find it okay to operate. Unlike others, I have not come across the number 5 not being marked. If I did, it would throw me somewhat. Other than that, I think it's a system which suits me well. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN > Hi Steve > >I believe that if people see there is an accessible site, they sometimes > > assume that the main site isn't accessible, or is less accessible, which > is > > a logical assumption, because they then wonder why an accessible site was > > needed at all, if the main site is less accessible. > > Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN! > > RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that not all the blind > visually impaired are able to use chip and PIN. > However, the reasoning is surly flawed because those that claim unable to > use a key pad, how many of those are able to use a telephone? > The point being if one is able to use telephone then one must be able to > use > a key pad. > > I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key pad, is easy if one > already knows the layout for a telephone buttons! > > Of course there will be people blind visually impaired that simply don't > want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as true for sighted people. > > What do others think, is chip and PIN really and truly difficult to use > for those with little or no sight? > Regards, > Derek > > e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq