Hi Steve, This is a valid point regarding the need for a dedicated screenreader, provided that Microsoft do more to make sure you can here your computer as it loads up - say, when it asks you whether you want to run in safe mode, or tells you about errors encountered during the boot-up process. There's more to accessibility than just screenreaders though, so the subject does deserve at least an honourable mention. Best, Clive -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 22 January 2015 12:35 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: no discussion regarding accessability on the latest windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft Hi, Who cares? We don't need one. Just download NVDA. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto Sent: 22 January 2015 08:49 To: A general technology discussion list; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.; BGZ - You don't have to be a geek to love it here.; chaaru surendrababu; Christopher Hallsworth; keyboardusers; list; nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sayeverything; nvda-winten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] no discussion regarding accessability on the latest windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft Hi all. First of all want to apologize for cross posting but want to raise an important question. For all who have not watched the presentation that Microsoft put out regarding the win 10 consumer preview this is the audio link. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16617710/videoplayback.m4a Note. The presentation is a full presentation without the cutting off of the question answer session I have only converted into audio so that it becomes small to download. The original video presentation is about 1.35 GB In the entire presentation of about 2hrs 19 min and 23 seconds Microsoft has not discussed on accessibility or regarding adding a screen reader to windows 10 and I mean full fledge screen reader. So now what do we do next. Although there are some fantastic things in this presentation will not spoil the excitement watch and see ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq