over time the original BIOS will be phased out and be replaced with uefi.( this phase of transition began, I think in 2011 ) For the geeks among you UEFI stands for unified extensible firmware interface. the logic behind this transition is that BIOS is inherently insecure, On 22/01/2015 17:30, Steve Nutt wrote: > Hi, > > Also, some PCs now have Windows utilities that allow you to access the BIOS > from within Windows itself. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Mike Ray > Sent: 22 January 2015 16:00 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: no discussion regarding accessability on the latest > windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft > > > You're need to get sighted assistance to make BIOS changes has nothing > to do with Windows. > > Last weekend I gave a presentation at the Portsmouth Linux User Group > about accessibility on Linux. I took a spare laptop along because I > needed BIOS help, which, believe me, galls me because I flatly refuse to > use a Linux distro I can't install without sighted assistance. > > If you have a Mac on which BIOS settings are accessible then that is > likely to be more to do with the machine architecture than the OS. > > MS should have included at least a statement of the state of the > accessibility sub-system. For example...I am curious to know whether > Windows 10 still includes MSAA or has it switched entirely to UIA? > > Mike > > > On 22/01/2015 15:46, David Griffith wrote: >> I disagree. Microsoft still have a lot to do. >> Since 2011 I have never had to employ support for any issues on my Mac >> because Accessibility is built into the OS across the system. So for >> example, when a problem occurred with my OS last year I was able to >> format my primary drive and download and install a completely fresh copy >> of Mac OS and then restore all my apps and data without any sighted >> help. This is possible on the Mac because Accessibility support is >> inbuilt across the OS. >> >> On Windows the situation is completely different. For example I know of >> no accessible way of looking at BIOS settings. So in the same period I >> have on average had to employ assistance fairly regularly to cope with >> problems which arise with my Windows PC. None of these issues are beyond >> me technically but simply require someone with sight to resolve. I >> thought I had protected myself with a combination of Re-image and >> Snapshot packages on the windows side but as I discovered a couple of >> weeks ago it takes only a minor hardware glitch for these packages to >> fall over despite these precautions. In this situations the images >> become useless and a new install is required. . Then once again the >> need for sighted help re-emerges. >> People are trying to develop talking windows installers but Microsoft >> should embed this accessibility into all its installation packages. >> >> David Griffith >> >> On 22/01/2015 12:35, Steve Nutt wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Who cares? We don't need one. Just download NVDA. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -- >>> Computer Room Services >>> 77 Exeter Close >>> Stevenage >>> Hertfordshire >>> SG1 4PW >>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Austin Pinto >>> Sent: 22 January 2015 08:49 >>> To: A general technology discussion list; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; >>> AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >>> the >>> disabled.; BGZ - You don't have to be a geek to love it here.; chaaru >>> surendrababu; Christopher Hallsworth; keyboardusers; list; >>> nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sayeverything; >>> nvda-winten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] no discussion regarding accessability on the latest >>> windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft >>> >>> Hi all. >>> First of all want to apologize for cross posting but want to raise an >>> important question. >>> For all who have not watched the presentation that Microsoft put out >>> regarding the win 10 consumer preview this is the audio link. >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16617710/videoplayback.m4a >>> Note. >>> The presentation is a full presentation without the cutting off of the >>> question answer session >>> I have only converted into audio so that it becomes small to download. >>> The original video presentation is about 1.35 GB >>> In the entire presentation of about 2hrs 19 min and 23 seconds >>> Microsoft has not discussed on accessibility or regarding adding a >>> screen reader to windows 10 and I mean full fledge screen reader. >>> So now what do we do next. >>> Although there are some fantastic things in this presentation will not >>> spoil the excitement watch and see >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > -- *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _* https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda