[access-uk] Re: no discussion regarding accessability on the latest windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft
- From: Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:59:32 +0000
You're need to get sighted assistance to make BIOS changes has nothing
to do with Windows.
Last weekend I gave a presentation at the Portsmouth Linux User Group
about accessibility on Linux. I took a spare laptop along because I
needed BIOS help, which, believe me, galls me because I flatly refuse to
use a Linux distro I can't install without sighted assistance.
If you have a Mac on which BIOS settings are accessible then that is
likely to be more to do with the machine architecture than the OS.
MS should have included at least a statement of the state of the
accessibility sub-system. For example...I am curious to know whether
Windows 10 still includes MSAA or has it switched entirely to UIA?
Mike
On 22/01/2015 15:46, David Griffith wrote:
> I disagree. Microsoft still have a lot to do.
> Since 2011 I have never had to employ support for any issues on my Mac
> because Accessibility is built into the OS across the system. So for
> example, when a problem occurred with my OS last year I was able to
> format my primary drive and download and install a completely fresh copy
> of Mac OS and then restore all my apps and data without any sighted
> help. This is possible on the Mac because Accessibility support is
> inbuilt across the OS.
>
> On Windows the situation is completely different. For example I know of
> no accessible way of looking at BIOS settings. So in the same period I
> have on average had to employ assistance fairly regularly to cope with
> problems which arise with my Windows PC. None of these issues are beyond
> me technically but simply require someone with sight to resolve. I
> thought I had protected myself with a combination of Re-image and
> Snapshot packages on the windows side but as I discovered a couple of
> weeks ago it takes only a minor hardware glitch for these packages to
> fall over despite these precautions. In this situations the images
> become useless and a new install is required. . Then once again the
> need for sighted help re-emerges.
> People are trying to develop talking windows installers but Microsoft
> should embed this accessibility into all its installation packages.
>
> David Griffith
>
> On 22/01/2015 12:35, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Who cares? We don't need one. Just download NVDA.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>> Subject: [access-uk] no discussion regarding accessability on the latest
>> windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft
>>
>> Hi all.
>> First of all want to apologize for cross posting but want to raise an
>> important question.
>> For all who have not watched the presentation that Microsoft put out
>> regarding the win 10 consumer preview this is the audio link.
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16617710/videoplayback.m4a
>> Note.
>> The presentation is a full presentation without the cutting off of the
>> question answer session
>> I have only converted into audio so that it becomes small to download.
>> The original video presentation is about 1.35 GB
>> In the entire presentation of about 2hrs 19 min and 23 seconds
>> Microsoft has not discussed on accessibility or regarding adding a
>> screen reader to windows 10 and I mean full fledge screen reader.
>> So now what do we do next.
>> Although there are some fantastic things in this presentation will not
>> spoil the excitement watch and see
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