I wonder if we can make a before/after distinction with regards to the Lodestones and/or the training from his wizardly companions, because, evidently, 'Silent' Wolf and his former mentors/companions did not have access to such knowledge/wisdom/training, so his understudies could become Kai Supreme Masters with less effort/discipline than LW did himself... Or does that not make sense? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Benjamin I Krefetz <krefetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Simon Osborne wrote: > >> And the footnotes and other non-errata. Some of those affect all 8 NO >> books. For example, how do we start the Levels of New Order Kai Grand >> Mastership at #4 instead of the usual #1? > > That's one that's really bugged me ever since the New Order books first came > out. From an out-of-story perspective, Joe must've said something like, "I > named 12 levels in the Grand Master series, but now I've added 4 Disciplines > and still only have names for 12 levels. Guess I'll just shift them up by > 3." > > This leads to other issues as well. E.g., improved Disciplines that Lone > Wolf got when he had 5 Disciplines, the New Order Kai can't get until > they've learned 8 Disciplines. And of course we have the ongoing debate > about how one can be a Kai Supreme Master when one's only learned 15 of 16 > Disciplines. > > My personal vote is to leave everything in this department as is, simply > because the New Order series isn't complete, so we don't know how Joe's > going to handle it in the remaining 4 books. Once 29tsoc is released, we > can go back and change 21-28 to agree if Joe's made any changes to the > table. > > Ben > > ~~~~~~ > Manage your subscription at http://www.freelists.org/list/projectaon > > > ~~~~~~ Manage your subscription at http://www.freelists.org/list/projectaon