[projectaon] Re: 21votm errata

  • From: Sam Seaver <samseaver@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:39:46 -0500

Hmmm...that's a good point. It is rather self-conflicting.

Perhaps we could say that LW himself changed the hierarchy in the Kai
monastery, as a result of his experiences, wisdom and influx of new
understudies.

The upshot is there is a lot different from the beginning of LW's
training, and that of the New Order trainees...


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Benjamin I Krefetz
<krefetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If I understand what you've said, your argument works in exactly the
> opposite direction from what Joe has going on.  LW's understudies are
> required to have learned 3 _more_ Disciplines to attain the same levels of
> Grand Mastery that LW did.
>
> Ben
>
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Sam Seaver wrote:
>
>> I wonder if we can make a before/after distinction with regards to the
>> Lodestones and/or the training from his wizardly companions, because,
>> evidently, 'Silent' Wolf and his former mentors/companions did not
>> have access to such knowledge/wisdom/training, so his understudies
>> could become Kai Supreme Masters with less effort/discipline than LW
>> did himself...
>>
>> Or does that not make sense?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Benjamin I Krefetz
>> <krefetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Simon Osborne wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the footnotes and other non-errata. Some of those affect all 8 NO
>>>> books. For example, how do we start the Levels of New Order Kai Grand
>>>> Mastership at #4 instead of the usual #1?
>>>
>>> That's one that's really bugged me ever since the New Order books first
>>> came
>>> out.  From an out-of-story perspective, Joe must've said something like,
>>> "I
>>> named 12 levels in the Grand Master series, but now I've added 4
>>> Disciplines
>>> and still only have names for 12 levels.  Guess I'll just shift them up
>>> by
>>> 3."
>>>
>>> This leads to other issues as well.  E.g., improved Disciplines that Lone
>>> Wolf got when he had 5 Disciplines, the New Order Kai can't get until
>>> they've learned 8 Disciplines.  And of course we have the ongoing debate
>>> about how one can be a Kai Supreme Master when one's only learned 15 of
>>> 16
>>> Disciplines.
>>>
>>> My personal vote is to leave everything in this department as is, simply
>>> because the New Order series isn't complete, so we don't know how Joe's
>>> going to handle it in the remaining 4 books.  Once 29tsoc is released, we
>>> can go back and change 21-28 to agree if Joe's made any changes to the
>>> table.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
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