[access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 06:31:49 +0100
I wonder if there is a facility in these keypads where the sound can be
adjusted but most are set by the stores, at least in my home town, to
silent.
Barry H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Cretney" <rac@xxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
Yes I have always found that the keys on the Chip and Pin pads make a very
quiet sound, but one that I can hear if I listen carefully.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
>
> Hi Barry,I agree about the layouts although all the ones I've used have a
> little bump on the number 5 and do make sounds all be it very quiet ones.
> Yusuf
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:48 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
>
>
>> Although I have not had much trouble using them, I think it is bad
>> practice
>> that there is not a standard layout for the keypads. Some stores have
>> the
>> number one at the top left, others have the one at the top of the second
>> column. Also, some have a pip on the number five and some don't.
>> Finally,
>> as none of them make a noise when the soft keys are pressed, I don't know
>> if
>> the number has actually been pressed properly.
>>
>> Barry H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:43 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>>I believe that if people see there is an accessible site, they sometimes
>>> assume that the main site isn't accessible, or is less accessible, which
>> is
>>> a logical assumption, because they then wonder why an accessible site
>>> was
>>> needed at all, if the main site is less accessible.
>>
>> Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN!
>>
>> RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that not all the blind
>> visually impaired are able to use chip and PIN.
>> However, the reasoning is surly flawed because those that claim unable to
>> use a key pad, how many of those are able to use a telephone?
>> The point being if one is able to use telephone then one must be able to
>> use
>> a key pad.
>>
>> I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key pad, is easy if
>> one
>> already knows the layout for a telephone buttons!
>>
>> Of course there will be people blind visually impaired that simply don't
>> want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as true for sighted people.
>>
>> What do others think, is chip and PIN really and truly difficult to use
>> for those with little or no sight?
>> Regards,
>> Derek
>>
>> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
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