[AR] Re: Mills Fuel Experiment

  • From: "Monroe L. King Jr." <monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:21:23 -0700

It takes X Joules to break the bond and you get Y energy from the
hydrogen. if Y is greater than X you have overunity.

 Monroe

 It does not matter how you produce the energy required to do this it's
still energy in and it still cost the same no matter how you look at it.

 I highly doubt any form of energy will be discovered without better
understanding of sub atomic physics an order of magnitude higher than is
now known. This is why fusion eludes us to this day.

 This reminds me a lot of cold fusion.

 Monroe 

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [AR] Re: Mills Fuel Experiment
> From: James Bowery <jabowery@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, March 19, 2015 6:45 pm
> To: arocket <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> Yes there is a lot of "power from water" foment out there.  That doesn't
> mean it is all the same.  The Mills theory is based on below-ground-state
> fractional Rydberg states of hydrogen which can be reached by energy
> transfer to a receptor above-ground-state ionization in a catalyst which
> then releases the photon.  The Mills theory may be wrong but I'm unaware
> that the achievement of below-ground-state fractional Rydeberg states is
> theoretically a violation of conservation of energy.  I'd be most intrigued
> to see the derivation.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Monroe L. King Jr. <
> monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > HHO practically insures an overunity experiment because the bond of
> > water is just too strong to indicate anything else!
> >
> >  Monroe
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [AR] Re: Mills Fuel Experiment
> > > From: James Bowery <jabowery@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thu, March 19, 2015 6:24 pm
> > > To: arocket <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >
> > > Please provide a link to the derivation of this over-unity implication.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:13 PM, <qbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I'd be very speculative of his work, although he's never said it
> > > > publicly, if you follow his line of thinking you get an over unity
> > device.
> > > >
> > > > At 06:57 PM 3/19/2015, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For those willing to entertain a speculative fuel -- one which has a
> > > > potential exhaust velocity (specific energy) of tens of km/s:
> > > >
> > > > Reading H2O-Based Solid Fuel Power Source Based on the Catalysis of H
> > by
> > > > HOH Catalyst
> > > > <
> > http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/SunCellPaper.pdf
> > >Â
> > > > and thinking about what might constitute a relatively simple and
> > > > inexpensive qualitative demonstration, it occurs to me that if (as is
> > > > indicated by Table 1) titanium is acting as a Mills catalyst, a pure
> > Ti+H
> > > > system based on atomic hydrogen welding (AHW) may be worth a try for
> > the
> > > > following reasons:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    - In AHW, the shielding gas is hydrogen.
> > > >    - The tungsten electrodes could be replaced by titanium electrodes
> > > >    feeding in at a higher rate.
> > > >    - Rather than nano-titanium the catalytic surface is vaporized
> > > >    titanium at 3,287°C -- a temperature readily achievable by AHW.
> > > >    - Being shielded from oxygen by the hydrogen flow, titanium
> > oxidation
> > > >    is avoided thereby avoiding a major confounding process and
> > variable.
> > > >    - The power into the AHW apparatus therefore takes two easily
> > > >    meterable forms:Â
> > > >       - electric power from the wall andÂ
> > > >       - hydrogen gas
> > > >    - The power out of the AHW apparatus should be dominated by light,
> > > >    which is also easily meterable.
> > > >    - Finally, and perhaps most decisively, the peak temperature should
> > > >    exceed that achievable by AHW.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Further on in the same paper, Figure 10 may indicate a superior fuel
> > > > mixture of:
> > > >
> > > > 50 mg NH4NO3 + KOH + KCl (2:1:1 wt.) + 15 mg H2OÂ
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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