[vicsireland] Re: debate on vics and E.G.M
- From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.j.culhane@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:31:03 +0100
Hi Gerry,
Just in response to a couple of your points:
8. In my reading of the constitution, you have to contact members at least 3
weeks previous to any meeting. Besides putting a notice on the mailing
list, Did the committee or you email all the members of vicsireland
individually to ensure that they are aware of the meeting?
All members are subscribed to the list, so there is no need to contact every
person individually to make them aware of the EGM. I do believe that this
has always been the way that members have been made aware of meetings.
As the list moderator I can verify that 97 people are currently subscribed
to the list. A person has to be a fully paid up member before they can be
subscribed to the list.
12. So, If I nominate and get a seconder for someone who might not be there
on the day Will it be accepted?
Not sure what you mean by the above. There are no elections to the
committee to be held at the EGM, so why would anybody be nominated? Of
course, if a position needs to be filled on the committee then, of course, a
person can be nominated and seconded and does not need to be present as long
as they have given written consent in advance for the nomination.
Tim
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Sent: 06 April 2014 20:23
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Subject: [vicsireland] debate on vics and E.G.M
Hi All,
Back again to try and whet your appetites for a debate on the topics of
having the meeting online and the future of vicsireland website and list.
1. Regarding the meeting, Kerie, I hear what you are saying but I strongly
request that you consider my suggestion. I don't know the numbers of
members but I'm sure that if you review the membership, you will note that
there are a large contingent of people who have or do not attend regularly,
on the basis that they feel the effort involved in making the meeting i.e.
trains, taxis a few hours in Dublin would be too great an effort. This is
no reflection on you or any committee members just that they have no
aspirations to be on committees but would be willing to work with the
committee on projects on an email basis.I'd paraphrase this in saying that
varying levels of vision and mobility either enhance or hinder individuals -
People please don't be insulted as this is an observation.
2. I mentioned the website, and Cearbhall
explained that it was an experiment by a sub committee. O.K. but isn't it
a basic task of the committee to keep such tasks updated as part of
housekeeping if the capability is available to it?
3. As a matter of point to the mailing list, Most queries are answered by
other members but I did notice a request for information on windows 8 and
menus on webpages recently which didn't receiveany response. I was tempted
to reply giving my thoughts which were unexperienced due to only
experiencing win 8 by chance and being an X.P. user myself.Shouldn't there
be some mechanism by which the knowledgable members of the committee would
intervene and provide info.
4. You stated that you emailed the list at the beginning of the year for
ideas but nothing came out of it. Shouldn't there be some kind of consensis
among the committee at the beginning of the year on areas to be covered or
projects to develop during the year. There is a diverse range of abilities
among the list members whom I'm sure would work with committee inspired
projects, if they were approached.
5. Is the basis of the computer society eroded so much that it is easier to
such the web for answers than to develop what we have. Simple answer Yes,
so what is the point, such an attitude
could have been taken years ago. success comes with effort.
6. Observing the responses to date, I believe that the numbers involved
have reduced in the society. A committee has to consider where to canvas
for new sources of members, did the committee consider this point?
7. What relationships or association has the society built up with other
groups, industry user groups ovr the years and what is the position
presently.
8. In my reading of the constitution, you have to contact members at least 3
weeks previous to any meeting. Besides putting a notice on the mailing
list, Did the committee or you email all the members of vicsireland
individually to ensure that they are aware of the meeting?
9. I've read the constitution and it covers a great deal. My original
observation in that I believe that a committee should be the driving force
rather than leaving it to the general membership is endorsed by the wording
of the constitution:
2 AIMS & OBJECTIVES
list of 6 items
1. To meet the needs of visually impaired
people in the area of general computer access.
2. To provide support to those who are new to
computers.
3. To encourage employers to hire visually
impaired employees enabled by new technology.
4. To promote and where possible, assist in the
development of adaptive technology, and to encourage developers of new
software
and hardware to ensure accessibility.
5. To act in an advisory capacity to bodies
seeking to provide access to electronic data.
6. To advise on, and promote the development of
fully accessible websites.
There is plenty of topics that would keep any committee busy. Can you
provide any updates on recent developments under any of the headings?
9. The constitution states that: 2. Nominations may be made for persons
not
present at the meeting, on receipt of written approval from the nominee.
This in itself opens the door to having a meeting on line as if a person is
nominated and accepted while not being there, they are being confirmed as
part of the working group i.e. committee
10. Cearbhall suggest a project in developing the open source software
i.e. programs like Open office, mozilla, linox, N.V.D.A. This is a very
interesting idea. personally I wouldn't be great with the ligistics
involved, we could develop such a package on the basis that it could be
applied to the lower cost tablets for assisting individuals getting
accustomed to technology.
11. What would people's attitude be to paid advertising on the website to
create a finance stream. The funds created could be used to finance
accessibility awards for design competitions for accessible software or
rewarding companies who make their websites accessible. School competitions
to develop accessible apps for USE BY BLIND PEOPLE OR BLIND USERS TO DEVELOP
APPS. This thought comes from the recent email from Ronan
12. So, If I nominate and get a seconder for someone who might not be there
on the day Will it be accepted?
13. Damien suggested to Kerie that he would help with an agendafor the
meetingAlas Kerie says that there is only 1 item to be discussed: there are
twelve items above to be considered.
14. Martin pointed out to me that in the event of voting a separate email
would have to be used for all the votes. I think this would be fine, once
the motion is in the header people can reply to the motion with yes or no.
Alternatively, an email containing the motions can be forwarded to the
individuals on the list and they can put their preferred option in quotes
beside it.
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