[gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app

  • From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:24:30 -0700

Why don’t you all learn how the streets and address work and then look up the 
address of the place you wish to go and then use blind square and have it just 
announce the cross streets and find the place.
 
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob cavanaugh
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 19:59
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app
 
Right, so maybe some sort of hybrid model could work. I am not sure how it 
would work on many levels, but ideally, you’d have the Foresquare pois, but 
only those with the full information (address, phone number etc) then you could 
add others to it, or the API for Seeing Eye could somehow be linked to 
Foresquare to update pois that have the relavant information. I’m not sure how 
to get it to work, but it would be interesting to see what could happen. 
 
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:10 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app
 
The problem with this idea is that there are hundreds of thousands of users of 
Foursquare, and a trivial few in comparison who use any of the Sendero apps. So 
you have a much better chance of knowing about new things in your area by 
tapping into the larger database.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:04 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Right, which is why I suggested something similar to the BN interface. Then, 
people could put the new pois in when they find it. 
 
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:44 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app
 
I like the 4 square pois. Yes, there is some junk, but also lots of new stuff 
not available elsewhere. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:33 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That’s cool, Mike. I’ll be looking forward to the new version. I mainly use 
Foresquare and it comes up with some interesting stuff, but part of the problem 
is it comes up with junk people put up with no information. For example, it 
comes up with intersections and trail heads as points of interest, which are 
not that useful to me when I’m just looking to see what’s around. I think a 
better crowd-sourced solution would be to somehow upload the data you’ve 
already gathered from having a GPS product for the BrailleNote and other 
devices to the Seeing Eye servers, then allowing us to add to those pois, much 
like is already possible with the BN and other products. I’m also not sure what 
the issue with Foresquare pois is, but it’ll tell me well before 50 miles from 
the current location that there are no more pois around. 
 
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:21 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app
 
Hello List,
 
I would like to address the recent emails about the Seeing Eye app in two 
parts. First I will talk about productive communications and separately about 
specific map data and feature items.
 
There is nothing to be gained by insulting a person especially using profanity. 
Neither are allowed on this list. Most importantly, those type of comments are 
not going to make an app improve. Sendero welcomes all respectful feedback on 
this list or privately.
 
Anyone who knows me personally or who knows Sendero can testify to the fact 
that Sendero does listen. Just because we can’t do something about an issue 
doesn’t mean we aren’t hearing you. The mere fact that several of us monitor 
and respond on this list should be strong indication of our commitment.
 
In fact, Sendero would never have created an iPhone app if it weren’t for users 
urging us to do so. There is little value in a for-profit company having a low 
volume low priced app. The money just isn’t there to be profitable. The 
American Printing House for the Blind  is a large nonprofit that doesn’t have 
to make Nearby Explorer app pay for itself. Some users complain about $69 being 
a high price for our app but this doesn’t come close to paying for the initial 
development or future development. Only the most benevolent for-profit 
companies can justify creating an accessibility app.
 
I am very sorry to hear about these experiences of the Seeing Eye app not 
working well for some of you. I use it every day quite successfully and we hear 
the same from many users. We will have a new release shortly at this 
anniversary of the first release and I will be curious to hear how that impacts 
those of you not liking the TomTom maps. 
 
I will comment further once that update is out.
 
Mike
 
 
Sendero Group, Davis California
Developers of accessible GPS
Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101
Home Office: 530-757-6900
Email: MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com
General GPS web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
Mike May Personal: http://www.CrashingThrough.com
 

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