Yes then that is when you find the door of the place you have blind square running and save it as a favorit and then you cn go to it every time From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob cavanaugh Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 20:41 To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app That is certainly one way to do it, and since I know this area pretty well, that wouldn’t be hard for me to do, but it doesn’t work for everything. I think I’ve mentioned Elevated Sportz on this list before, as it’s a place I go to quite frequently. If I did exactly as you suggested with no route, it would be quite difficult to find because it’s way back off the main road. As has been said before on this list, GPS is a tool, not a replacement for your navigation skills. From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George B Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 8:24 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app Why don’t you all learn how the streets and address work and then look up the address of the place you wish to go and then use blind square and have it just announce the cross streets and find the place. From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob cavanaugh Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 19:59 To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app Right, so maybe some sort of hybrid model could work. I am not sure how it would work on many levels, but ideally, you’d have the Foresquare pois, but only those with the full information (address, phone number etc) then you could add others to it, or the API for Seeing Eye could somehow be linked to Foresquare to update pois that have the relavant information. I’m not sure how to get it to work, but it would be interesting to see what could happen. From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:10 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app The problem with this idea is that there are hundreds of thousands of users of Foursquare, and a trivial few in comparison who use any of the Sendero apps. So you have a much better chance of knowing about new things in your area by tapping into the larger database. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:04 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Right, which is why I suggested something similar to the BN interface. Then, people could put the new pois in when they find it. From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:44 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app I like the 4 square pois. Yes, there is some junk, but also lots of new stuff not available elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:33 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: That’s cool, Mike. I’ll be looking forward to the new version. I mainly use Foresquare and it comes up with some interesting stuff, but part of the problem is it comes up with junk people put up with no information. For example, it comes up with intersections and trail heads as points of interest, which are not that useful to me when I’m just looking to see what’s around. I think a better crowd-sourced solution would be to somehow upload the data you’ve already gathered from having a GPS product for the BrailleNote and other devices to the Seeing Eye servers, then allowing us to add to those pois, much like is already possible with the BN and other products. I’m also not sure what the issue with Foresquare pois is, but it’ll tell me well before 50 miles from the current location that there are no more pois around. From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:21 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app Hello List, I would like to address the recent emails about the Seeing Eye app in two parts. First I will talk about productive communications and separately about specific map data and feature items. There is nothing to be gained by insulting a person especially using profanity. Neither are allowed on this list. Most importantly, those type of comments are not going to make an app improve. Sendero welcomes all respectful feedback on this list or privately. Anyone who knows me personally or who knows Sendero can testify to the fact that Sendero does listen. Just because we can’t do something about an issue doesn’t mean we aren’t hearing you. The mere fact that several of us monitor and respond on this list should be strong indication of our commitment. In fact, Sendero would never have created an iPhone app if it weren’t for users urging us to do so. There is little value in a for-profit company having a low volume low priced app. The money just isn’t there to be profitable. The American Printing House for the Blind is a large nonprofit that doesn’t have to make Nearby Explorer app pay for itself. Some users complain about $69 being a high price for our app but this doesn’t come close to paying for the initial development or future development. Only the most benevolent for-profit companies can justify creating an accessibility app. I am very sorry to hear about these experiences of the Seeing Eye app not working well for some of you. I use it every day quite successfully and we hear the same from many users. We will have a new release shortly at this anniversary of the first release and I will be curious to hear how that impacts those of you not liking the TomTom maps. I will comment further once that update is out. Mike Sendero Group, Davis California Developers of accessible GPS Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101 Home Office: 530-757-6900 Email: MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com General GPS web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com Mike May Personal: http://www.CrashingThrough.com