[gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app

  • From: Ray Carette <ray957719@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 12:35:26 -0400

I have run into symilar probblems except that wht I find is some
landmarks that it gives are either way off i.e Pappajohns Pizza used
to be at the corner of Concord and Elm streets here in Manchester NH
but has not been there for at least 1-2 years. Also Manchester Housing
Authority (MHRA, they have it at Chestnut and Hanover that one is
actually located at Pine and hanover which is 1 block East of where
the map says it is. I do not know if that is before or after update
since I am new to this app so I won't comment on that either way. I
will say thoughas far as directions and most landmarks are concerned,
I find it to be very useful and I'm confident that it is only going to
improve as time goes on. I would also like to thank the folks who have
made it possible for us blind/visual impaired folks to have a reliable
source for directions to places as that hass never been possible
before so dispite some immperfections, let's be thankful for the work
that has been put forth thus far and the work that continues to be put
towards improvement.

On 7/5/14, sunshine <sunshine817@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'll be glad to see the new update. I use my GPS in motorized mode and the
> problem I find is that destinations are announced long before we get to
> them. I find that 5 to 10 minutes later is when we've actually arrived. The
> directions given are great and I like using motorized mode when on
> paratransit or in a cab. I sure can tell how off course para is and try to
> guide them in the right direction! I just can't successfully search for
> pois. I'm told that pois I know are within ten miles  don't exist. That
> didn't seem to be a problem until after the last upgrade! So, Mike, I'll be
> anxious to hear what the next upgrade has to offer. I've not used pedestrian
> mode only because I don't have a safe carrier for my cell phone so I
> generally use my Trekker Breeze. In any case, it could be that
> geographically there might be better success in some locations than in
> others.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2014 8:07 pm
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye
> app
>
>>
>>
>> I tend to switch back and forth, in many cases I will use the tomtom pois
>> since blsquare handles pois from foursquare. I have found, at least in
>> this area, that using the tomtom maps provides a much more accurate
>> address than open street maps does.
>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > I like the 4 square pois. Yes, there is some junk, but also lots of new
>> > stuff not available elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:33 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's cool, Mike. I'll be looking forward to the new version. I mainly
>> >> use Foresquare and it comes up with some interesting stuff, but part of
>> >> the problem is it comes up with junk people put up with no information.
>> >> For example, it comes up with intersections and trail heads as points
>> >> of interest, which are not that useful to me when I'm just looking to
>> >> see what's around. I think a better crowd-sourced solution would be to
>> >> somehow upload the data you've already gathered from having a GPS
>> >> product for the BrailleNote and other devices to the Seeing Eye
>> >> servers, then allowing us to add to those pois, much like is already
>> >> possible with the BN and other products. I'm also not sure what the
>> >> issue with Foresquare pois is, but it'll tell me well before 50 miles
>> >> from the current location that there are no more pois around.
>> >>
>> >> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:21 PM
>> >> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] communicating productively about the Seeing
>> >> Eye app
>> >>
>> >> Hello List,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to address the recent emails about the Seeing Eye app in
>> >> two parts. First I will talk about productive communications and
>> >> separately about specific map data and feature items.
>> >>
>> >> There is nothing to be gained by insulting a person especially using
>> >> profanity. Neither are allowed on this list. Most importantly, those
>> >> type of comments are not going to make an app improve. Sendero welcomes
>> >> all respectful feedback on this list or privately.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone who knows me personally or who knows Sendero can testify to the
>> >> fact that Sendero does listen. Just because we can't do something about
>> >> an issue doesn't mean we aren't hearing you. The mere fact that several
>> >> of us monitor and respond on this list should be strong indication of
>> >> our commitment.
>> >>
>> >> In fact, Sendero would never have created an iPhone app if it weren't
>> >> for users urging us to do so. There is little value in a for-profit
>> >> company having a low volume low priced app. The money just isn't there
>> >> to be profitable. The American Printing House for the Blind  is a large
>> >> nonprofit that doesn't have to make Nearby Explorer app pay for itself.
>> >> Some users complain about $69 being a high price for our app but this
>> >> doesn't come close to paying for the initial development or future
>> >> development. Only the most benevolent for-profit companies can justify
>> >> creating an accessibility app.
>> >>
>> >> I am very sorry to hear about these experiences of the Seeing Eye app
>> >> not working well for some of you. I use it every day quite successfully
>> >> and we hear the same from many users. We will have a new release
>> >> shortly at this anniversary of the first release and I will be curious
>> >> to hear how that impacts those of you not liking the TomTom maps.
>> >>
>> >> I will comment further once that update is out.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sendero Group, Davis California
>> >> Developers of accessible GPS
>> >> Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101
>> >> Home Office: 530-757-6900
>> >> Email: MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com
>> >> General GPS web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>> >> Mike May Personal: http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>> >>
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