[gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the Seeing Eye app
- From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:27:51 -0700
Dale,
Make 4 more google mail accounts then you are the five and you can mark
everything in your little town
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 20:21
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the
> Seeing Eye app
>
> You will find this with each and every application. After all, just who
> is
> responsible for telling the mappers who went out of business and who
> has set
> up a new one?
>
> Even 4Square is unreliable depending on a variety of circumstances. Few
> places are identified in my little town and likely will never be since
> it
> requires at least 5 people to check in with 4Square and I am unaware of
> anyone else using it here. Even I enter a location it is unlikely that
> four
> others will too.
>
> AS for when Google is likely to tour the continent again ...
>
> Cheers.
>
> Dale Leavens.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 10:50 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the
> Seeing Eye
> app
>
>
> > I've run into those kinds of things myself. I live not too far from a
> > little
> > strip mall which among other things has a Safeway, a Supercuts, and a
> T.J.
> > Max. There are a number of smaller businesses that were there at one
> point
> > but are now gone, yet they're still listed in Seeing Eye. Also,
> though I
> > haven't checked this one in a while, I used to go to this Trampoline
> place
> > in Bellevue but it's now closed. Last I checked, it was still in the
> map
> > data, though I haven't checked in a while.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Carette
> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:35 AM
> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the
> Seeing
> > Eye
> > app
> >
> > I have run into symilar probblems except that wht I find is some
> landmarks
> > that it gives are either way off i.e Pappajohns Pizza used to be at
> the
> > corner of Concord and Elm streets here in Manchester NH but has not
> been
> > there for at least 1-2 years. Also Manchester Housing Authority
> (MHRA,
> > they
> > have it at Chestnut and Hanover that one is actually located at Pine
> and
> > hanover which is 1 block East of where the map says it is. I do not
> know
> > if
> > that is before or after update since I am new to this app so I won't
> > comment
> > on that either way. I will say thoughas far as directions and most
> > landmarks
> > are concerned, I find it to be very useful and I'm confident that it
> is
> > only
> > going to improve as time goes on. I would also like to thank the
> folks who
> > have made it possible for us blind/visual impaired folks to have a
> > reliable
> > source for directions to places as that hass never been possible
> before so
> > dispite some immperfections, let's be thankful for the work that has
> been
> > put forth thus far and the work that continues to be put towards
> > improvement.
> >
> > On 7/5/14, sunshine <sunshine817@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I'll be glad to see the new update. I use my GPS in motorized mode
> and
> >> the problem I find is that destinations are announced long before we
> >> get to them. I find that 5 to 10 minutes later is when we've
> actually
> >> arrived. The directions given are great and I like using motorized
> >> mode when on paratransit or in a cab. I sure can tell how off course
> >> para is and try to guide them in the right direction! I just can't
> >> successfully search for pois. I'm told that pois I know are within
> ten
> >> miles don't exist. That didn't seem to be a problem until after the
> >> last upgrade! So, Mike, I'll be anxious to hear what the next
> upgrade
> >> has to offer. I've not used pedestrian mode only because I don't
> have
> >> a safe carrier for my cell phone so I generally use my Trekker
> Breeze.
> >> In any case, it could be that geographically there might be better
> >> success in some locations than in others.
> > .
> > .
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2014 8:07 pm
> >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: communicating productively about the
> >> Seeing Eye app
> > .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I tend to switch back and forth, in many cases I will use the
> tomtom
> >>> pois since blsquare handles pois from foursquare. I have found, at
> >>> least in this area, that using the tomtom maps provides a much more
> >>> accurate address than open street maps does.
> >>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I like the 4 square pois. Yes, there is some junk, but also lots
> of
> >>> > new stuff not available elsewhere.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent from my iPhone
> >>> >
> >>> > On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:33 PM, "bob cavanaugh"
> <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> That's cool, Mike. I'll be looking forward to the new version. I
> >>> >> mainly use Foresquare and it comes up with some interesting
> stuff,
> >>> >> but part of the problem is it comes up with junk people put up
> with
> >>> >> no
> > information.
> >>> >> For example, it comes up with intersections and trail heads as
> >>> >> points of interest, which are not that useful to me when I'm
> just
> >>> >> looking to see what's around. I think a better crowd-sourced
> >>> >> solution would be to somehow upload the data you've already
> >>> >> gathered from having a GPS product for the BrailleNote and other
> >>> >> devices to the Seeing Eye servers, then allowing us to add to
> >>> >> those pois, much like is already possible with the BN and other
> >>> >> products. I'm also not sure what the issue with Foresquare pois
> >>> >> is, but it'll tell me well before 50 miles from the current
> location
> > that there are no more pois around.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> >>> >> May
> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:21 PM
> >>> >> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] communicating productively about the
> >>> >> Seeing Eye app
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hello List,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I would like to address the recent emails about the Seeing Eye
> app
> >>> >> in two parts. First I will talk about productive communications
> >>> >> and separately about specific map data and feature items.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There is nothing to be gained by insulting a person especially
> >>> >> using profanity. Neither are allowed on this list. Most
> >>> >> importantly, those type of comments are not going to make an app
> >>> >> improve. Sendero welcomes all respectful feedback on this list
> or
> > privately.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anyone who knows me personally or who knows Sendero can testify
> to
> >>> >> the fact that Sendero does listen. Just because we can't do
> >>> >> something about an issue doesn't mean we aren't hearing you. The
> >>> >> mere fact that several of us monitor and respond on this list
> >>> >> should be strong indication of our commitment.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In fact, Sendero would never have created an iPhone app if it
> >>> >> weren't for users urging us to do so. There is little value in a
> >>> >> for-profit company having a low volume low priced app. The money
> >>> >> just isn't there to be profitable. The American Printing House
> for
> >>> >> the Blind is a large nonprofit that doesn't have to make Nearby
> > Explorer app pay for itself.
> >>> >> Some users complain about $69 being a high price for our app but
> >>> >> this doesn't come close to paying for the initial development or
> >>> >> future development. Only the most benevolent for-profit
> companies
> >>> >> can justify creating an accessibility app.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am very sorry to hear about these experiences of the Seeing
> Eye
> >>> >> app not working well for some of you. I use it every day quite
> >>> >> successfully and we hear the same from many users. We will have
> a
> >>> >> new release shortly at this anniversary of the first release and
> I
> >>> >> will be curious to hear how that impacts those of you not liking
> the
> > TomTom maps.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I will comment further once that update is out.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Mike
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sendero Group, Davis California
> >>> >> Developers of accessible GPS
> >>> >> Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101 Home Office:
> >>> >> 530-757-6900
> >>> >> Email: MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com General GPS web:
> >>> >> http://www.AccessibleGPS.com Mike May Personal:
> >>> >> http://www.CrashingThrough.com
> >>> >>
> >>>
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> > .
> >> Sunshine and Ivanna, my cute little labradorable, the mischief maker
> >> in a group of dogs
> > .
> >> Google Talk: Halogirl817
> > .
> >> "Tell me and I forget teach me and I may remember, involve me and I
> > learn."
> > .
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