[gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
- From: Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:43:25 -0500
There are still some holes that need to be filled in with android
accessibility, but it's very useable. Hopefully, braille support will be
coming, I don't use a display, so for me that's not an issue. You can
accomplish all of the major tasks on both platforms, though the way you do them
is different. Remember that for the first 2 years, the iphone was not even
accessible. I like both platforms, but for different reasons.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
> I think that they both have their market. I think that Android is
> perhaps better suited to a person who is somewhat geeky and adventurous.
> Not all of us are that way, and I think that the iPhone is a better
> choice for someone who wants to just do stuff and not have to focus on
> how you do it. I think that it's easier to get up and running with the
> iPhone. To use a car analogy. If you want to simply drive the car, get
> an iPhone. If you are really into how the car works, go with Android.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanner, David
> (DEED)
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:51 AM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>
> Yes, but comparing the iPhone and Android is not a fair comparison
> because accessibility is much more developed, and Braille support is
> really good on the iPhone.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:20 AM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>
> The one thing I would like to point out is that, if you have an Apex or
> any modern Sense notetaker, you can use it as a braille display and
> keyboard with an iPhone or any other iTouch. That means that you do not
> need to hear the speech when your surroundings are too noisy.
> Android is not even close to such a capability; they have not touched
> accessibility in the last three or four upgrades, as far as I know.
>
> On 6/8/11, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> hi mike hope this get through as i am doing it on my braille device. i
>
>> have always thought sendero has been my best option for gps as i am a
>> piano tuner and totally blind. i am lucky to have the apex but now am
>> wondering about the android element of gps. i also have the iphone
>> which is truly great as it is so portable my old nokia e 65 is on its
>> way out and though late on this thread are sendero putting the gps on
>> the android like the symbian verssion of their product. here in the uk
>
>> i will be at sight village and hope to look at the android gps market
>> if sendero are there. i need portability and the iphone apex and and
> the android comes in to play here.
>> cheers there.
>>
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>> From: Mike Arrigo Ing"nforoxythecharterddnet0Ing
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>> Date: Tuesday, 7 Jun 2011 21.56.04
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
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>> 0
>> 0
>> 0 I agree with you about Microsoft and Accessibility, they really
>> dropped
>> 0 the ball with Windows Phone 7. Fortunately, there are alternatives.
>> I
>> 0 only use a mac at home now, and I use an iphone and android for
>> 0 different things. The fact is, windows mobile 6 is a dying breed,
>> both
>> 0 on phones and note takers. It simply makes no sense to pay more for
>> 0 these note takers, when you can get a laptop for much less, and they
>
>> do
>> 0 more. For Sendero, it makes sense to expand their product on to IOS
>> and
>> 0 Android. Right now, Android is the top smart phone OS in the world.
>> 0 Symbian was decent, but like windows mobile, it's on the way out.
>> You
>> 0 can still get Symbian phones, but it makes no sense to buy in to a
>> 0 platform that is dying fast. Android and IOS are the operating
>> systems
>> 0 to have and use for mobile devices, at least for the next few years
>> probably.
>> 0 Original message:
>> 0 0 Yes, and had Microsoft come up with good accessibility standards,
> etc.
>> 0 0 and stood by them including with their own software we would be a
>> lot
>> 0 0 better off now than the never ending battle for access to Windows
>> that
>> 0 0 will never end.
>> 0
>> 0 0 So, if a developer wants the freedom to do things their way
>> without
>> 0 0 following Apple's rules they can go to Android, and be a sloppy
>> 0 0 developer and never have to worry about being told that their work
>
>> is
>> 0 0 inferior and the end user suffers as a result.
>> 0
>> 0 0 Apply those same principals in a business and the company would go
>> 0 0 under because their software developers would refuse to work
>> together
>> 0 0 to come up with applications that will allow the company to do the
>> 0 0 things they need to do.
>> 0
>> 0
>> 0
>> 0
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>> 0 0 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6.26 PM
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>> 0 0 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
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>> 0 0 Well, that can be a risk of any operating system, the best way to
>> avoid
>> 0 0 that is good old fashion common sense, granted, on IOS that's
>> probably
>> 0 0 not as much of a risk, but you're stuck having to do everything
>> the way
>> 0 0 Apple wants, don't get me wrong, I like both platforms, but for
>> 0 0 different reasons.
>> 0 0 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7.24 AM, Tanner, David (DEED) wrote:
>> 0
>> 0 0was And, of course, with Android you get the added pleasure of all
>> the
>> 0 0was malware that comes along with it for free.
>> 0
>> 0
>> 0
>> 0
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>> 0 0was Subject: [gps-talkusers] sendero GPS on iphone and android
>> 0
>> 0 0was Hey everyone, was thinking a bit more about the possibility of
>> the full
>> 0 0was Sendero GPS product being developed on the iphone and Android.
>> 0 0was Actually, I would think it would be easier on Android than the
>> iphone
>> 0 0was for a couple of reasons. First, Android allows self voicing
>> apps to be
>> 0 0was developed much easier. On the iphone, there is no way for
>> applications
>> 0 0was to speak using the TTs engine that is built in to the iphone,
>> which is
>> 0 0was what voiceover uses. So, Sendero would need to either include
>> their own
>> 0 0was tts engine, which would increase cost, or rely on voiceover to
>> read
>> 0 0was everything, which would not allow the app to really be used in
>> the
>> 0 0was background. Also, there would be no easy way to copy maps to
>> the
>> 0 0was iphone, unless the entire country was included in the app the
>> way
>> 0 0was Navigon and TomTom work. Or, it could just download maps as it
>> needs
>> 0 0was them the way the look around app does, but the TTS would still
>> be a
>> 0 0was major issue. On the other hand, Android would not have any of
>> these
>> 0 0was problems. It provides an AP
>> 0 0 I
>> 0 0was to create talking applications, and it works in the
>> background, the
>> 0 0was way Google navigation does. Also, copying maps to Android
>> devices is
>> 0 0was easy since you can just connect the phone in mass storage mode
>> and copy
>> 0 0was the maps to the SD card. And of course, with android, there is
>> no
>> 0 0was approval process to deal with, which is why the look around app
>
>> could
>> 0 0was be updated so fast. For these reasons, if Sendero does plan to
>> expand
>> 0 0was to other platforms, Android would be the logical first choice I
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