[gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
- From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 05:49:31 -0400
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On 6/9/11, Ricky Prevatte <rprevatte@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi folks how can I use the Iphone a little pointer would be helpful. Are
> there any lists that one might join? I use Sendero's GPS but we just got an
> IPHONE. I am no good at this flicking, triple tapping and stuff. I would
> never trust a GPS on one of these things.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:34 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>
> I'd be curious to know what features you can't find? The only real one I can
> think of is being told how many feet a place is from you, or how many feet a
> street crossing is, that would be nice, but it's not really something I miss
> personally.
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Gideon Kibret wrote:
>
>> I sometimes wonder if I have lost something. I have tried various GPS
>> applications that have some degree of accessibility and I would consider
>> myself to be an advanced user of technology. In my experience, none of the
>> other GPS applications including Android and IPhone come anywere near
>> Sendero's GPS applications on BrailleNote and windows Phones. Most of them
>> may offer a considerably cheaper option but when it comes to giving the
> most
>> comprehensive accessibility and usability as well as abundance of
> features,
>> they fall far short. To be honest, I have found some of the supposedly
>> comparable GPS devices and applications not much more than very basic or
>> elementary. But I respect and appreciate that there may be many out there
>> that find them useful.
>> Gideon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:43 AM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>
>> There are still some holes that need to be filled in with android
>> accessibility, but it's very useable. Hopefully, braille support will be
>> coming, I don't use a display, so for me that's not an issue. You can
>> accomplish all of the major tasks on both platforms, though the way you do
>> them is different. Remember that for the first 2 years, the iphone was not
>> even accessible. I like both platforms, but for different reasons.
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>> I think that they both have their market. I think that Android is
>>> perhaps better suited to a person who is somewhat geeky and adventurous.
>>> Not all of us are that way, and I think that the iPhone is a better
>>> choice for someone who wants to just do stuff and not have to focus on
>>> how you do it. I think that it's easier to get up and running with the
>>> iPhone. To use a car analogy. If you want to simply drive the car, get
>>> an iPhone. If you are really into how the car works, go with Android.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanner, David
>>> (DEED)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:51 AM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>>
>>> Yes, but comparing the iPhone and Android is not a fair comparison
>>> because accessibility is much more developed, and Braille support is
>>> really good on the iPhone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:20 AM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>>
>>> The one thing I would like to point out is that, if you have an Apex or
>>> any modern Sense notetaker, you can use it as a braille display and
>>> keyboard with an iPhone or any other iTouch. That means that you do not
>>> need to hear the speech when your surroundings are too noisy.
>>> Android is not even close to such a capability; they have not touched
>>> accessibility in the last three or four upgrades, as far as I know.
>>>
>>> On 6/8/11, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> hi mike hope this get through as i am doing it on my braille device. i
>>>
>>>> have always thought sendero has been my best option for gps as i am a
>>>> piano tuner and totally blind. i am lucky to have the apex but now am
>>>> wondering about the android element of gps. i also have the iphone
>>>> which is truly great as it is so portable my old nokia e 65 is on its
>>>> way out and though late on this thread are sendero putting the gps on
>>>> the android like the symbian verssion of their product. here in the uk
>>>
>>>> i will be at sight village and hope to look at the android gps market
>>>> if sendero are there. i need portability and the iphone apex and and
>>> the android comes in to play here.
>>>> cheers there.
>>>>
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>>>> From: Mike Arrigo Ing"nforoxythecharterddnet0Ing
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>>>> Date: Tuesday, 7 Jun 2011 21.56.04
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>>>
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 I agree with you about Microsoft and Accessibility, they really
>>>> dropped
>>>> 0 the ball with Windows Phone 7. Fortunately, there are alternatives.
>>>> I
>>>> 0 only use a mac at home now, and I use an iphone and android for
>>>> 0 different things. The fact is, windows mobile 6 is a dying breed,
>>>> both
>>>> 0 on phones and note takers. It simply makes no sense to pay more for
>>>> 0 these note takers, when you can get a laptop for much less, and they
>>>
>>>> do
>>>> 0 more. For Sendero, it makes sense to expand their product on to IOS
>>>> and
>>>> 0 Android. Right now, Android is the top smart phone OS in the world.
>>>> 0 Symbian was decent, but like windows mobile, it's on the way out.
>>>> You
>>>> 0 can still get Symbian phones, but it makes no sense to buy in to a
>>>> 0 platform that is dying fast. Android and IOS are the operating
>>>> systems
>>>> 0 to have and use for mobile devices, at least for the next few years
>>>> probably.
>>>> 0 Original message:
>>>> 0 0 Yes, and had Microsoft come up with good accessibility standards,
>>> etc.
>>>> 0 0 and stood by them including with their own software we would be a
>>>> lot
>>>> 0 0 better off now than the never ending battle for access to Windows
>>>> that
>>>> 0 0 will never end.
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0 So, if a developer wants the freedom to do things their way
>>>> without
>>>> 0 0 following Apple's rules they can go to Android, and be a sloppy
>>>> 0 0 developer and never have to worry about being told that their work
>>>
>>>> is
>>>> 0 0 inferior and the end user suffers as a result.
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0 Apply those same principals in a business and the company would go
>>>> 0 0 under because their software developers would refuse to work
>>>> together
>>>> 0 0 to come up with applications that will allow the company to do the
>>>> 0 0 things they need to do.
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0 Ing----comIngOriginal MessageIng----comIng
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>>>> 0 0 Ingofmailtoccgps-talkusers-bouncethefreelistsddorgwithIng On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>>>> 0 0 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6.26 PM
>>>> 0 0 To: Inggps-talkusersthefreelistsddorgIng
>>>> 0 0 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0 Well, that can be a risk of any operating system, the best way to
>>>> avoid
>>>> 0 0 that is good old fashion common sense, granted, on IOS that's
>>>> probably
>>>> 0 0 not as much of a risk, but you're stuck having to do everything
>>>> the way
>>>> 0 0 Apple wants, don't get me wrong, I like both platforms, but for
>>>> 0 0 different reasons.
>>>> 0 0 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7.24 AM, Tanner, David (DEED) wrote:
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0was And, of course, with Android you get the added pleasure of all
>>>> the
>>>> 0 0was malware that comes along with it for free.
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
>>>> 0
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>>>> 0 0was To: Inggps-talkusersthefreelistsddorgIng
>>>> 0 0was Subject: [gps-talkusers] sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>>> 0
>>>> 0 0was Hey everyone, was thinking a bit more about the possibility of
>>>> the full
>>>> 0 0was Sendero GPS product being developed on the iphone and Android.
>>>> 0 0was Actually, I would think it would be easier on Android than the
>>>> iphone
>>>> 0 0was for a couple of reasons. First, Android allows self voicing
>>>> apps to be
>>>> 0 0was developed much easier. On the iphone, there is no way for
>>>> applications
>>>> 0 0was to speak using the TTs engine that is built in to the iphone,
>>>> which is
>>>> 0 0was what voiceover uses. So, Sendero would need to either include
>>>> their own
>>>> 0 0was tts engine, which would increase cost, or rely on voiceover to
>>>> read
>>>> 0 0was everything, which would not allow the app to really be used in
>>>> the
>>>> 0 0was background. Also, there would be no easy way to copy maps to
>>>> the
>>>> 0 0was iphone, unless the entire country was included in the app the
>>>> way
>>>> 0 0was Navigon and TomTom work. Or, it could just download maps as it
>>>> needs
>>>> 0 0was them the way the look around app does, but the TTS would still
>>>> be a
>>>> 0 0was major issue. On the other hand, Android would not have any of
>>>> these
>>>> 0 0was problems. It provides an AP
>>>> 0 0 I
>>>> 0 0was to create talking applications, and it works in the
>>>> background, the
>>>> 0 0was way Google navigation does. Also, copying maps to Android
>>>> devices is
>>>> 0 0was easy since you can just connect the phone in mass storage mode
>>>> and copy
>>>> 0 0was the maps to the SD card. And of course, with android, there is
>>>> no
>>>> 0 0was approval process to deal with, which is why the look around app
>>>
>>>> could
>>>> 0 0was be updated so fast. For these reasons, if Sendero does plan to
>>>> expand
>>>> 0 0was to other platforms, Android would be the logical first choice I
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