[gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
- From: "Tanner, David (DEED)" <david.tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:16:01 -0500
Well, I think one thing he is referring to is a virtual mode or sometimes
called browse mode.
I guess sometimes a person has to make choices about what they purchase based
on whether they believe paying the premium price is worth the difference in
price. But, when it comes to a difference of over $1,000 those features had be
absolutely essential.
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:34 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
I'd be curious to know what features you can't find? The only real one I can
think of is being told how many feet a place is from you, or how many feet a
street crossing is, that would be nice, but it's not really something I miss
personally.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Gideon Kibret wrote:
> I sometimes wonder if I have lost something. I have tried various GPS
> applications that have some degree of accessibility and I would
> consider myself to be an advanced user of technology. In my
> experience, none of the other GPS applications including Android and
> IPhone come anywere near Sendero's GPS applications on BrailleNote and
> windows Phones. Most of them may offer a considerably cheaper option
> but when it comes to giving the most comprehensive accessibility and
> usability as well as abundance of features, they fall far short. To be
> honest, I have found some of the supposedly comparable GPS devices and
> applications not much more than very basic or elementary. But I
> respect and appreciate that there may be many out there that find them useful.
> Gideon
>
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> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:43 AM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>
> There are still some holes that need to be filled in with android
> accessibility, but it's very useable. Hopefully, braille support will
> be coming, I don't use a display, so for me that's not an issue. You
> can accomplish all of the major tasks on both platforms, though the
> way you do them is different. Remember that for the first 2 years, the
> iphone was not even accessible. I like both platforms, but for different
> reasons.
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>
>> I think that they both have their market. I think that Android is
>> perhaps better suited to a person who is somewhat geeky and adventurous.
>> Not all of us are that way, and I think that the iPhone is a better
>> choice for someone who wants to just do stuff and not have to focus
>> on how you do it. I think that it's easier to get up and running
>> with the iPhone. To use a car analogy. If you want to simply drive
>> the car, get an iPhone. If you are really into how the car works, go with
>> Android.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanner,
>> David
>> (DEED)
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:51 AM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>
>> Yes, but comparing the iPhone and Android is not a fair comparison
>> because accessibility is much more developed, and Braille support is
>> really good on the iPhone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:20 AM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
>>
>> The one thing I would like to point out is that, if you have an Apex
>> or any modern Sense notetaker, you can use it as a braille display
>> and keyboard with an iPhone or any other iTouch. That means that you
>> do not need to hear the speech when your surroundings are too noisy.
>> Android is not even close to such a capability; they have not touched
>> accessibility in the last three or four upgrades, as far as I know.
>>
>> On 6/8/11, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> hi mike hope this get through as i am doing it on my braille device.
>>> i
>>
>>> have always thought sendero has been my best option for gps as i am
>>> a piano tuner and totally blind. i am lucky to have the apex but now
>>> am wondering about the android element of gps. i also have the
>>> iphone which is truly great as it is so portable my old nokia e 65
>>> is on its way out and though late on this thread are sendero putting
>>> the gps on the android like the symbian verssion of their product.
>>> here in the uk
>>
>>> i will be at sight village and hope to look at the android gps
>>> market if sendero are there. i need portability and the iphone apex
>>> and and
>> the android comes in to play here.
>>> cheers there.
>>>
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>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
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>>> 0
>>> 0
>>> 0 I agree with you about Microsoft and Accessibility, they really
>>> dropped
>>> 0 the ball with Windows Phone 7. Fortunately, there are alternatives.
>>> I
>>> 0 only use a mac at home now, and I use an iphone and android for
>>> 0 different things. The fact is, windows mobile 6 is a dying breed,
>>> both
>>> 0 on phones and note takers. It simply makes no sense to pay more
>>> for
>>> 0 these note takers, when you can get a laptop for much less, and
>>> they
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>>> do
>>> 0 more. For Sendero, it makes sense to expand their product on to
>>> IOS and
>>> 0 Android. Right now, Android is the top smart phone OS in the world.
>>> 0 Symbian was decent, but like windows mobile, it's on the way out.
>>> You
>>> 0 can still get Symbian phones, but it makes no sense to buy in to a
>>> 0 platform that is dying fast. Android and IOS are the operating
>>> systems
>>> 0 to have and use for mobile devices, at least for the next few
>>> years probably.
>>> 0 Original message:
>>> 0 0 Yes, and had Microsoft come up with good accessibility
>>> standards,
>> etc.
>>> 0 0 and stood by them including with their own software we would be
>>> a lot
>>> 0 0 better off now than the never ending battle for access to
>>> Windows that
>>> 0 0 will never end.
>>> 0
>>> 0 0 So, if a developer wants the freedom to do things their way
>>> without
>>> 0 0 following Apple's rules they can go to Android, and be a sloppy
>>> 0 0 developer and never have to worry about being told that their
>>> work
>>
>>> is
>>> 0 0 inferior and the end user suffers as a result.
>>> 0
>>> 0 0 Apply those same principals in a business and the company would
>>> go
>>> 0 0 under because their software developers would refuse to work
>>> together
>>> 0 0 to come up with applications that will allow the company to do
>>> the
>>> 0 0 things they need to do.
>>> 0
>>> 0
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>>> 0 0 Well, that can be a risk of any operating system, the best way
>>> to avoid
>>> 0 0 that is good old fashion common sense, granted, on IOS that's
>>> probably
>>> 0 0 not as much of a risk, but you're stuck having to do everything
>>> the way
>>> 0 0 Apple wants, don't get me wrong, I like both platforms, but for
>>> 0 0 different reasons.
>>> 0 0 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7.24 AM, Tanner, David (DEED) wrote:
>>> 0
>>> 0 0was And, of course, with Android you get the added pleasure of
>>> all the
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>>> 0 0was Hey everyone, was thinking a bit more about the possibility
>>> of the full
>>> 0 0was Sendero GPS product being developed on the iphone and Android.
>>> 0 0was Actually, I would think it would be easier on Android than
>>> the iphone
>>> 0 0was for a couple of reasons. First, Android allows self voicing
>>> apps to be
>>> 0 0was developed much easier. On the iphone, there is no way for
>>> applications
>>> 0 0was to speak using the TTs engine that is built in to the iphone,
>>> which is
>>> 0 0was what voiceover uses. So, Sendero would need to either include
>>> their own
>>> 0 0was tts engine, which would increase cost, or rely on voiceover
>>> to read
>>> 0 0was everything, which would not allow the app to really be used
>>> in the
>>> 0 0was background. Also, there would be no easy way to copy maps to
>>> the
>>> 0 0was iphone, unless the entire country was included in the app the
>>> way
>>> 0 0was Navigon and TomTom work. Or, it could just download maps as
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>>> 0 0was problems. It provides an AP
>>> 0 0 I
>>> 0 0was to create talking applications, and it works in the
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>>> 0 0was the maps to the SD card. And of course, with android, there
>>> is no
>>> 0 0was approval process to deal with, which is why the look around
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>>> 0 0was be updated so fast. For these reasons, if Sendero does plan
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