[gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android

  • From: "Tanner, David (DEED)" <david.tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:49:08 -0500

And, you certainly can have a Bluetooth Braille display linked to that iPhone 
that may cost as much as $5,000 cheaper than an Apex.

Even if you chose a 40 column display you could do that for over $3,000 cheaper 
than a BrailleNote Apex even before adding the cost of the GPS for the Apex.




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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:44 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android

Good point yes you can have the phone in a top pocket. the only thing with the 
iphone is that the inbuilt gps is not as sensative as the external gps devices. 
At 11:20 08/06/2011, you wrote:
>The one thing I would like to point out is that, if you have an Apex or 
>any modern Sense notetaker, you can use it as a braille display and 
>keyboard with an iPhone or any other iTouch. That means that you do not 
>need to hear the speech when your surroundings are too noisy.
>Android is not even close to such a capability; they have not touched 
>accessibility in the last three or four upgrades, as far as I know.
>
>On 6/8/11, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > hi mike hope this get through as i am doing it on my braille device. 
> > i have always thought sendero has been my best option for gps as i 
> > am a
> piano tuner
> > and totally blind. i am lucky to have the apex but now am wondering 
> > about the android element of gps. i also have the iphone which is 
> > truly great as it is so portable my old nokia e 65 is on its way out 
> > and though late on this thread are sendero putting the gps on the 
> > android like the symbian verssion of their product. here in the uk i 
> > will be at sight village and hope to look at the android gps market 
> > if sendero are there. i need portability and the iphone apex and  and the 
> > android comes in to play here.
> > cheers there.
> >
> > Ing----comIng Original Message Ing----comIng
> > From: Mike Arrigo Ing"nforoxythecharterddnet0Ing
> > To:  Inggps-talkusersthefreelistsddorgIng
> > Date: Tuesday, 7 Jun 2011 21.56.04
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
> >
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0 I agree with you about Microsoft and Accessibility, they really 
> > dropped
> > 0 the ball with Windows Phone 7. Fortunately, there are 
> > alternatives. I
> > 0 only use a mac at home now, and I use an iphone and android for
> > 0 different things. The fact is, windows mobile 6 is a dying breed, 
> > both
> > 0 on phones and note takers. It simply makes no sense to pay more 
> > for
> > 0 these note takers, when you can get a laptop for much less, and 
> > they do
> > 0 more. For Sendero, it makes sense to expand their product on to 
> > IOS and
> > 0 Android. Right now, Android is the top smart phone OS in the world.
> > 0 Symbian was decent, but like windows mobile, it's on the way out. 
> > You
> > 0 can still get Symbian phones, but it makes no sense to buy in to a
> > 0 platform that is dying fast. Android and IOS are the operating 
> > systems
> > 0 to have and use for mobile devices, at least for the next few 
> > years probably.
> > 0 Original message:
> > 0 0 Yes, and had Microsoft come up with good accessibility standards, etc.
> > 0 0 and stood by them including with their own software we would be 
> > a lot
> > 0 0 better off now than the never ending battle for access to 
> > Windows that
> > 0 0 will never end.
> > 0
> > 0 0 So, if a developer wants the freedom to do things their way 
> > without
> > 0 0 following Apple's rules they can go to Android, and be a sloppy
> > 0 0 developer and never have to worry about being told that their 
> > work is
> > 0 0 inferior and the end user suffers as a result.
> > 0
> > 0 0 Apply those same principals in a business and the company would 
> > go
> > 0 0 under because their software developers would refuse to work 
> > together
> > 0 0 to come up with applications that will allow the company to do 
> > the
> > 0 0 things they need to do.
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0 0 Ing----comIngOriginal MessageIng----comIng
> > 0 0 From: Inggps-talkusers-bouncethefreelistsddorgIng
> > 0 0 Ingofmailtoccgps-talkusers-bouncethefreelistsddorgwithIng On 
> > Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> > 0 0 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6.26 PM
> > 0 0 To: Inggps-talkusersthefreelistsddorgIng
> > 0 0 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
> > 0
> > 0 0 Well, that can be a risk of any operating system, the best way 
> > to avoid
> > 0 0 that is good old fashion common sense, granted, on IOS that's 
> > probably
> > 0 0 not as much of a risk, but you're stuck having to do everything 
> > the way
> > 0 0 Apple wants, don't get me wrong, I like both platforms, but for
> > 0 0 different reasons.
> > 0 0 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7.24 AM, Tanner, David (DEED) wrote:
> > 0
> > 0 0was And, of course, with Android you get the added pleasure of 
> > all the
> > 0 0was malware that comes along with it for free.
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0
> > 0 0was Ing----comIngOriginal MessageIng----comIng
> > 0 0was From: Inggps-talkusers-bouncethefreelistsddorgIng
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> > Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> > 0 0was Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6.55 PM
> > 0 0was To: Inggps-talkusersthefreelistsddorgIng
> > 0 0was Subject: [gps-talkusers] sendero GPS on iphone and android
> > 0
> > 0 0was Hey everyone, was thinking a bit more about the possibility 
> > of the full
> > 0 0was Sendero GPS product being developed on the iphone and Android.
> > 0 0was Actually, I would think it would be easier on Android than
> the iphone
> > 0 0was for a couple of reasons. First, Android allows self voicing 
> > apps to be
> > 0 0was developed much easier. On the iphone, there is no way for 
> > applications
> > 0 0was to speak using the TTs engine that is built in to the iphone, 
> > which is
> > 0 0was what voiceover uses. So, Sendero would need to either include 
> > their own
> > 0 0was tts engine, which would increase cost, or rely on voiceover 
> > to read
> > 0 0was everything, which would not allow the app to really be used 
> > in the
> > 0 0was background. Also, there would be no easy way to copy maps to 
> > the
> > 0 0was iphone, unless the entire country was included in the app the 
> > way
> > 0 0was Navigon and TomTom work. Or, it could just download maps as 
> > it needs
> > 0 0was them the way the look around app does, but the TTS would 
> > still be a
> > 0 0was major issue. On the other hand, Android would not have any of 
> > these
> > 0 0was problems. It provides an AP
> > 0 0  I
> > 0 0was  to create talking applications, and it works in the 
> > background, the
> > 0 0was way Google navigation does. Also, copying maps to Android 
> > devices is
> > 0 0was easy since you can just connect the phone in mass storage 
> > mode and copy
> > 0 0was the maps to the SD card. And of course, with android, there 
> > is no
> > 0 0was approval process to deal with, which is why the look
> around app could
> > 0 0was be updated so fast. For these reasons, if Sendero does
> plan to expand
> > 0 0was to other platforms, Android would be the logical first choice 
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