[gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android

  • From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:20:07 -0400

The one thing I would like to point out is that, if you have an Apex
or any modern Sense notetaker, you can use it as a braille display and
keyboard with an iPhone or any other iTouch. That means that you do
not need to hear the speech when your surroundings are too noisy.
Android is not even close to such a capability; they have not touched
accessibility in the last three or four upgrades, as far as I know.

On 6/8/11, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> hi mike hope this get through as i am doing it on my braille device. i have
> always thought sendero has been my best option for gps as i am a piano tuner
> and totally blind. i am lucky to have the apex but now am wondering about
> the android element of gps. i also have the iphone which is truly great as
> it is so portable my old nokia e 65 is on its way out and though late on
> this thread are sendero putting the gps on the android like the symbian
> verssion of their product. here in the uk i will be at sight village and
> hope to look at the android gps market if sendero are there. i need
> portability and the iphone apex and  and the android comes in to play here.
> cheers there.
>
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> From: Mike Arrigo Ing"nforoxythecharterddnet0Ing
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> Date: Tuesday, 7 Jun 2011 21.56.04
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: sendero GPS on iphone and android
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> 0
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> 0 I agree with you about Microsoft and Accessibility, they really dropped
> 0 the ball with Windows Phone 7. Fortunately, there are alternatives. I
> 0 only use a mac at home now, and I use an iphone and android for
> 0 different things. The fact is, windows mobile 6 is a dying breed, both
> 0 on phones and note takers. It simply makes no sense to pay more for
> 0 these note takers, when you can get a laptop for much less, and they do
> 0 more. For Sendero, it makes sense to expand their product on to IOS and
> 0 Android. Right now, Android is the top smart phone OS in the world.
> 0 Symbian was decent, but like windows mobile, it's on the way out. You
> 0 can still get Symbian phones, but it makes no sense to buy in to a
> 0 platform that is dying fast. Android and IOS are the operating systems
> 0 to have and use for mobile devices, at least for the next few years
> probably.
> 0 Original message:
> 0 0 Yes, and had Microsoft come up with good accessibility standards, etc.
> 0 0 and stood by them including with their own software we would be a lot
> 0 0 better off now than the never ending battle for access to Windows that
> 0 0 will never end.
> 0
> 0 0 So, if a developer wants the freedom to do things their way without
> 0 0 following Apple's rules they can go to Android, and be a sloppy
> 0 0 developer and never have to worry about being told that their work is
> 0 0 inferior and the end user suffers as a result.
> 0
> 0 0 Apply those same principals in a business and the company would go
> 0 0 under because their software developers would refuse to work together
> 0 0 to come up with applications that will allow the company to do the
> 0 0 things they need to do.
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> 0 0 Well, that can be a risk of any operating system, the best way to avoid
> 0 0 that is good old fashion common sense, granted, on IOS that's probably
> 0 0 not as much of a risk, but you're stuck having to do everything the way
> 0 0 Apple wants, don't get me wrong, I like both platforms, but for
> 0 0 different reasons.
> 0 0 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7.24 AM, Tanner, David (DEED) wrote:
> 0
> 0 0was And, of course, with Android you get the added pleasure of all the
> 0 0was malware that comes along with it for free.
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> 0 0was Subject: [gps-talkusers] sendero GPS on iphone and android
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> 0 0was Hey everyone, was thinking a bit more about the possibility of the
> full
> 0 0was Sendero GPS product being developed on the iphone and Android.
> 0 0was Actually, I would think it would be easier on Android than the iphone
> 0 0was for a couple of reasons. First, Android allows self voicing apps to
> be
> 0 0was developed much easier. On the iphone, there is no way for
> applications
> 0 0was to speak using the TTs engine that is built in to the iphone, which
> is
> 0 0was what voiceover uses. So, Sendero would need to either include their
> own
> 0 0was tts engine, which would increase cost, or rely on voiceover to read
> 0 0was everything, which would not allow the app to really be used in the
> 0 0was background. Also, there would be no easy way to copy maps to the
> 0 0was iphone, unless the entire country was included in the app the way
> 0 0was Navigon and TomTom work. Or, it could just download maps as it needs
> 0 0was them the way the look around app does, but the TTS would still be a
> 0 0was major issue. On the other hand, Android would not have any of these
> 0 0was problems. It provides an AP
> 0 0  I
> 0 0was  to create talking applications, and it works in the background, the
> 0 0was way Google navigation does. Also, copying maps to Android devices is
> 0 0was easy since you can just connect the phone in mass storage mode and
> copy
> 0 0was the maps to the SD card. And of course, with android, there is no
> 0 0was approval process to deal with, which is why the look around app could
> 0 0was be updated so fast. For these reasons, if Sendero does plan to expand
> 0 0was to other platforms, Android would be the logical first choice I
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