[opendtv] Re: NY Times: In Verizon Strike, Blue-Collar Stress Hits the Sidewalks
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 22:12:02 -0400
On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
It takes multiple attempts to get the simplest concepts through, we have
discovered over the years. Once again, Craig. Verizon sells no DSL here
anymore. If your DSL service breaks, they will only give you the option to
get FiOS. Even if it does not break, they have sent us notices saying we need
to either migrate to FiOS or they will drop us as customers. Our long-time
neighbors, just the next street over in the same neighborhood, have already
been forced to FiOS. This is fact, Craig.
Sooooooo...
Why would Verizon continue to sell an inferior technology in a market where
they have invested in FIOS?
You have options, like Cox, that make DSL look like a Sony Betamax. What is
the price difference between the DSL service you currently subscribe to and a
50 Mbps FIOS service?
Here's a clue in Annapolis, a Comcast market - not sure where you live...
So about $30/mo for 5 Mbps DSL versus $50/mo for 50 Mbps FIOS.
You're screwed!
The reality is that DSL is near end-of-life,
Completely false.
http://www.highspeedexperts.com/future-of-dsl/
AT&T continues to use ADSL, newer variants, and I showed you already the 1
Gb/s variant coming on. Plus, there are other options than FTTH anyway.
Yup. But Verizon already built out FIOS in your neighborhood. They have no
reason to continue investing in BOTH DSL and FIOS where you live.
AT&T sends me a promotional letter almost every week trying to get me to move
back to DSL. It's cheaper, but at 5 Mbps it is inadequate compared to the 50
Mbps service I now have from Cox.
I cannot blame AT&T for continuing to pursue DSL, given the cost of deploying a
FTTH system. But they are failing miserably in the marketplace, because DSL is
not competitive with the broadband services offered by cable.
The fact that Verizon is now moving away from DSL in markets where
they ALSO deployed FIOS should come as no surprise.
What comes as no surprise is that the enforced migration costs so much that
Verizon decided to call it quits with FiOS. Although they continue to insist
on the migration, in those markets where it already exists.
Apples and oranges. In markets where they have deployed FIOS it makes sense to
sell that service, as it is competitive with cable and they have already
invested in FIOS.
But in markets where they need to deploy FIOS, the numbers may not make sense.
They must consider to cost of the overbuild, the number of subscribers they
could capture from the incumbents, and the return on investment.
They have no choice.
Of course they have choices. The most expensive choice is the one they
picked. I suppose Verizon had expected people to come flocking voluntarily to
the much-hyped FTTH, but this didn't happen. It's a rather cumbersome
upgrade, you become responsible for your own battery for telephone service
during a power outage, and it doesn't last very long.
And once they committed they had little choice but to optimize that investment,
or to kill it. Thy have decent market share and it is one of their most
profitable "wireline" businesses.
But that is irrelevant when considering new investments in FIOS. Those
investments must be justified based on the ROI, which is not as attractive as
when Verizon built the existing FIOS systems.
Thanks for making my case. The cable guys have already upgraded
their networks with fiber to the neighborhood,
I have had to explain that to you multiple times too, Craig. All hybrid
systems keep pushing fiber closer to homes. Makes no difference whether it's
coax or twisted pair. How many iterations of this do we have to go through,
before it sinks in?
The cable guys have a huge advantage relative to new fiber overbuilds and
further investments in DSL.
Regards
Craig
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