[projectaon] Re: Flowcharts
- From: "David Davis" <feline1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:00:55 -0000
On a more general note to all the specifics below -
would it be possible to add a Key to the flowcharts, just to explain the colour
coding and abbreviations?
I admit in only took my brain about 25 seconds to work out that, for instance,
a green âAnKâ meant âAnimal Kinship required for this choiceâ ... but it is
good practice to not even make me have to think for 25 seconds ;)
From: David KubeÄka
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:15 PM
To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [projectaon] Re: Flowcharts
Hi all,
thanks for your reactions. I am sending another picture, this time from book
no.3, where you can see more clearly how the sections where certain items are
obtained are highlighted. Also, where the choice is dependent on possesion of
an item it is there attached in an abbreviated form to the corresponding edge.
I have of course seen your own flowcharts but I think the method you use to
generate them (XSLT) doesn't scale. For instance what you can see on the
attached picture would be quite difficult to do with XSLT, at least I don't
know how to do it (but then I am no expert in that matter). Also any book which
has riddles in it leads into disconnected components (as you can see with book
no.5) because there is no choice explicitly mentioned in the section with
riddle.
This leads me to the first issue out of several which I have found when digging
the information out of the XML source files.
1) There is some inconsistency about what XML tag is used for 'death
paragraphs' - places in sections where Lone Wolf dies. Sometimes it is tag <p>
and sometimes <choice>. Morever above mentioned sections with riddles usually
(but not always) also use <choice> tag. That makes handling these exceptional
sections quite hard to handle authomatically. I therefore suggest that there
would be separate tag for each of these cases and its usage would be consistent
throughout all books. Namely: <p> for normal text, <choice> only for text which
references another section, <death> only for LW's deaths and <riddle> for
various riddles, locks etc. The HTML form of the last three tags could be the
same as it is now. That would make the whole design slightly cleaner as well as
help me (or anyone else) parsing the source files.
That was the issue which causes me most problems during my work. Others are not
so serious and some of them can be solved quite easily.
2) In book 9 you can find Vial of Blue Pills and if you examine it closely the
text on section 29 tells you "Record both doses of Sabito on your <a
idref="action">Action Chart</a> as a single Backpack Item." But later on you
are asked "If you have a Vial of Blue Pills, ...". I think this could be
unified to mention Vial of Blue Pills on sect.29 as well.
3) On 11/146 LW can take Baylon<ch.apos/>s Bough Fungi but on 13/16 he is asked
if he possesses Baylon<ch.apos/>s Fungi. Could that be unified as well?
4) 14/329 mentions Statue of Sl<ch.ucirc/>tar wheras evrywhere else it is
referred to as Statuette of Sl<ch.ucirc/>tar.
5) Choice on 15/109 is conditioned by having a Green Key and only Green Key
which LW can ever get is in two places in book 14. On sect.76 it is a backpack
item and on sect.276 it is a special item. Moreover on 15/304 you are told
"Quickly you take it [the key] from your Backpack,...". I doubt that those two
keys in book 14 aren't the same items. Moreover I suspect the author have
forgotten to let LW obtain the Green Key somewhere in book 15 because it seems
highly improbable that one key could be used on so much geographically distant
places.
6) On 18/277 LW finds "Pouch containing 2 Potions of Laumspur" but it is not
mentioned what are its effects on Endurance Points which is otherwise always
the case.
I hope someone will go through these issues and assist me with their solution.
Regards
David
---------- PÅvodnà zprÃva ----------
Od: Jonathan Blake <jonathan.blake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 1. 11. 2012
PÅedmÄt: [projectaon] Re: Flowcharts
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM, David KubeÄka <davidkubecka@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> few years ago I have sent to a Project Aon mailing list (not this one) few
> examples of my work on graphs showing possible paths through a Lone Wolf
> gamebook (flowcharts). I have abandoned this project at that time but now I
> have returned to it and rewritten it in (I hope) a more readable and
> scalable way. You can find an example of current state of art graph in the
> attachment. It currently shows which disciplines and/or items you must have
> in order to take particular choice. It is by no means definitive version
> (missing 'combat nodes') and I have a few more ideas what else to include in
> the graph (shortest path through a book, more items etc.).
>
> If you like my work I would be happy if you could some day publish it on
> Project Aon website. I would also like if you suggested to me any
> improvements or corrections. For those interested in the source code you can
> find it on Github https://github.com/kejv/lw_flowchart.
>
> I'm looking forward to your repli es.
Hey David. Great work! I'm assuming you've already seen our official versions.
http://www.projectaon.org/en/svg/lw/01fftd.svgz
I'd love to see these improved with some of your ideas like shortest
path and required items.
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Jon
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