[projectaon] Re: Flowcharts
- From: David KubeÄka <davidkubecka@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:25:48 +0100 (CET)
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Od: Simon Osborne <outspaced@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 12. 11. 2012
PÅedmÄt: [projectaon] Re: Flowcharts
"Hi David
On 11/11/2012 18:15, David KubeÄka wrote:
> 2) In book 9 you can find Vial of Blue Pills and if you examine it
> closely the text on section 29 tells you "Record both doses of Sabito on
> your <a idref="action">Action Chart</a> as a single Backpack Item." But
> later on you are asked "If you have a Vial of Blue Pills, ...". I think
> this could be unified to mention Vial of Blue Pills on sect.29 as well.
Hi Simon,
Interesting stuff! I'd suggest the following changes:
(er) 09tcof 289: a Vial of Blue Pills -> some Sabito [so: Or, "a dose of
Sabito", but that sounds more like you need to see a doctor! Credit
David KubeÄka [DK] ]
I think things are more complicated here. You can get some Sabito under the
name 'Vial of Blue Pills' also in book no.7 section 227. In fact situations
in 7/227 and 9/155 are almost the same: you find some items one of which is
mysterious Vial of Blue Pills. If you have Healing you can 'identify the
nature of the Blue Pills', but even if you don't you can still take it and
later use it without knowing exactly about its effects. That is quite
strange and moreover inconsistent with one similar situation I can think of,
namely in 3/10 when you can examine several liquids but you cannot take them
unless you identify their effects.
Therefore I think it should be the same case here. You find Vial of Blue
Pills but only when you have Healing you can take it as a dose of Sabito. By
that name it would also be referred in choices, i.e. 'If you have a Vial of
Blue Pills' -> 'If you have some Sabito'. That would also be consistent with
later books which speak exclusively about Sabito.
> 3) On 11/146 LW can take Baylon<ch.apos/(http://ch.apos/)>s Bough Fungi
but on 13/16 he
> is asked if he possesses Baylon<ch.apos/(http://ch.apos/)>s Fungi. Could
that be unified
> as well?
(er) 11tpot 146: Baylon's Bough Fungi -> Baylon's Fungi [so: To agree
with 13tplor Section 16. Credit David KubeÄka [DK] ]
Or:
(er) 13tplor 16: Baylon's Fungi -> Baylon's Bough Fungi [so: To agree
with 11tpot Section 146. Credit David KubeÄka [DK] ]
I am for the first (shorter) one.
> 4) 14/329 mentions Statue of Sl<ch.ucirc/(http://ch.ucirc/)>tar wheras
evrywhere else it
> is referred to as Statuette of Sl<ch.ucirc/(http://ch.ucirc/)>tar.
(er) 14tcok 239: Statue of Sl<ch.ucirc/(http://ch.ucirc/)>tar -> Statuette
of
Sl<ch.ucirc/(http://ch.ucirc/)>tar. [so: For consistency with everywhere
else in the book.
Credit David KubeÄka [DK] ]
Agreed.
> 5) Choice on 15/109 is conditioned by having a Green Key and only Green
> Key which LW can ever get is in two places in book 14. On sect.76 it is
> a backpack item and on sect.276 it is a special item. Moreover on 15/304
> you are told "Quickly you take it [the key] from your Backpack,...". I
> doubt that those two keys in book 14 aren't the same items. Moreover I
> suspect the author have forgotten to let LW obtain the Green Key
> somewhere in book 15 because it seems highly improbable that one key
> could be used on so much geographically distant places.
(er) 14tcok 276: mark it on your Action Chart as a Special Item which
you carry in your tunic pocket -> mark it on your Action Chart as a
Backpack Item [so: Keys are always Backpack Items. Credit David KubeÄka
[DK] ]
Agreed on this particular case. But keys are not always Backpack items, e.g.
Ornate Silver Key, Copper Key etc.
With respect to the distance between the key's location and its use,
maybe the Drakkarim have very few types of locks, and this key will open
all the "green locks" across the Drakkarim nations! ;-)
That sounds pretty credible ;-)
> 6) On 18/277 LW finds "Pouch containing 2 Potions of Laumspur" but it is
> not mentioned what are its effects on Endurance Points which is
> otherwise always the case.
(er) 18dotd 277: [so: Add: "(each restores 4 ENDURANCE points)" cf.
15tdc Sections 10, 213, 344. Credit David KubeÄka [DK] ]
Agreed.
Respecting the flowchart, would the following tweaks be doable? If not,
it's no problem, I just thought I'd ask.
* Add a Key as to what the shortened Disciplines are (it took me a
minute or two to work out AnK = Animal Kinship)
Yeah, I definitely plan to make a legend somewhere. I still don't know where
to put it exactly. Separate legend for each book or single centralized one?
Also the abbreviations are not settled yet...
* Different colours for Items vs. Disciplines (e.g. Required Item is
red; Required Discipline is in green)
Plan it. Once there are also non-special items I will probably differentiate
them as well.
* For Sections that return back (e.g. Section 152 -> 181 -> 152 in Book
3) would it be possible to use one arrow with 'dir = "both" ' to keep
the flowchart easier to read?
That would be harder to do because I traverse the sections from 1 to 350
sequentially and never go back. The amount of work required does not seem to
compensate for the effort :-)
On the other hand I am considering concetrating parallel edges. That is only
one switch in graphviz source file and it could increase readability.
* Maybe keep the zeroes before one and two-digit Section numbers: 006,
083, etc. This makes it easier to search for a specific Section number
That's good idea. I will try it and see.
Generally these are really just little tweaks that can be done at any time.
For now I want to do first more essential things like displaying combat
nodes (not as easy because I doesn't want that the nodes with more opponents
take too much space) and also connecting these components separated due to
riddles. But I won't work on it until my first point from previous mail is
somehow resolved.
These look very good already, though. Great work!
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Simon Osborne
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